Hooligan
Squirrel King of Arms; Cunstaval to Maricopa
Posts: 7,325
Talossan Since: 7-12-2005
Motto: PRIMA CAPIAM POCULA
Baron Since: 11-20-2005
Count Since: 9-8-2012
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Post by Hooligan on Sept 20, 2007 20:14:02 GMT -6
For the record, I have e-mailed the following text to S:reu Gavartgic'h. I know that everyone who has posted on this thread will agree with it:
Azul Alexandreu!
Oh, and as for the "hint", worry not and most definitely do NOT leave! Take it from me, you are extremely welcome as a Talossan, and speaking for myself and your fellow countrymen, we as a nation are more than pleased to have you among us as a fellow citizen. Those who may be "irritated" by your enthusiasm would also be the first to insist that the last thing any of us want is your departure. You may rest assured that you have found a good home here. I, for one, thank you for your outstanding level of committment to and enthusiasm for our nation and for the flurry of activity that you have brought with you and spawned. Truly, my fellow Talossan, you are one of us. Proud to be your Prime Minister, Hooligan
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Hooligan
Squirrel King of Arms; Cunstaval to Maricopa
Posts: 7,325
Talossan Since: 7-12-2005
Motto: PRIMA CAPIAM POCULA
Baron Since: 11-20-2005
Count Since: 9-8-2012
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Post by Hooligan on Sept 20, 2007 20:28:51 GMT -6
Just to follow my own words with more of them (since I know how much we all love to read them -- or is it just me?), I think we all know that entering into a new community, especially one like ours, is difficult to begin with, and for a man of 14 years of age to carry on conversations with new friends three to four times his age, each of whom carries wisdom and experience born before he was, is quite a chore.
Recalling (just barely) myself at 14, I see an ardent idealistic pacifist, certain that I would never consider a military life. Now, at 43, I truly regret that I did not serve my nation in that capacity. My political opinions at 14 bear little if any resemblance to those I hold today, and yet at 14 I was just as certain that I was correct as I am today. I am not in any way predicting anyone's future -- my own experiences are just that, and perhaps what I call wisdom is truly the foolishness of age. I am only waxing philosophical a bit here to remind the nation that (as Senator Davis pointed out in another thread) political differences are simply discussion points, and in our nation of polite upstanding gentry, these differences can be debated and argued without any inference of personal enmity. For we are all Talossans. Everyone finds their own place here, and we all enjoy it as each person does. No one wants anyone to leave, that's for sure. Whatever our differences may be (and that is the reason we have this, our national forum -- to provide us a place to discuss these differences), we are all Talossans.
Hooligan
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
Capitán of the Zouaves
Posts: 6,511
Talossan Since: 9-21-2006
Knight Since: 10-12-2010
Motto: Cuimhnichibh air na daoine bho'n d'thainig sibh
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Sept 20, 2007 23:38:35 GMT -6
No, not at all.
If people were asked to leave because they were "irritants" ...
I would have been out the door ages ago.
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Sir C. M. Siervicül
Posts: 9,636
Talossan Since: 8-13-2005
Knight Since: 7-28-2007
Motto: Nonnisi Deo serviendum
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Post by Sir C. M. Siervicül on Sept 21, 2007 0:31:22 GMT -6
Whatever our differences may be (and that is the reason we have this, our national forum -- to provide us a place to discuss these differences), we are all Talossans. Hooligan Well said!
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Sept 22, 2007 7:45:27 GMT -6
After considering what you have all said. I apologize to the Squirrel King, after re-reading my posts, which do seem insulting even though they were not meant to be. I also have redesigned my coat of arms so that it better fits in with whom I am, rather then what I think looks cool. I hope the Squirrel King will be able to accept my new design, and tell me about any problems with it (as there are bound to be a lot).: -Dreu The wings symoblize my love of travel and how much I wish I could fly. The star represents my Jewish heritage, the green and red eagle is a talossified version of the syrian coat of arms, to represent my old and new heritages, and the talossifed portuguese coat of arms, represents the same. This coat of arms for some reason looks better smaller (go figure) than bigger, so I'll also provide a icon sized version so the college can see what it would look like as my avatar: P.S. What would you call this in heraldic language?
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Trotxâ
Talossan since 10-17-2005; Knight since 11-5-2006
Deo duce, ferro comitante
Posts: 1,574
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Post by Trotxâ on Sept 22, 2007 11:11:14 GMT -6
What would you call this in heraldic language? A good start. Unfortunately, your design still has a few problems - the biggest obstacles are the complexity, the similarity and the potentially unauthorized use of previously established arms. You do have a few good elements, so let's start with the legitimate part: The black shield: Sable, The yellow wings: Wings conjoined or, The yellow Star of David (not the same as a Mullet of Six): Star of David or The white top: a chief argent This would give you Sable, wings conjoined or surrounding a Star of David or beneath a chief argent.As described here, the complexity of your achievement is six: three tinctures (sable, or, argent), one ordinary (chief) and two charges (wings, star). In the rules of Talossan Heraldry, Paragraph II. 1. a. describes the Complexity Rule: As a rule, the total of the number of tinctures plus the number of types of charges (the “complexity metric”) should not exceed eight. Given this, it will be impossible to include the additional arms of Syria and Portugal (either standard or recoloured) while staying under the complexity requirements. Complexity and retouching not withstanding, it is better to avoid the arms of other countries, as these are already recognized. As an additional note of concern, your Sable a chief argent is similar to the arms of Sir Fritz von Buchholtz, UrN and S:reu Joel Wood. The College might request a differentiation for uniqueness and clarity. But - this is a good start. You have some unique elements, which are good. The design of an achievement is always an iterative process. Your Squirrel King humbly suggests that you might consider something like this: Azure, wings conjoined or, in chief argent a Star of David azure. This also has a complexity of six. However, this might be too close to this for your comfort. As always ever ready to assist, we of the College remain your humble servants, -- Jaune Sabre Herald, Squirrel King at Arms
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Oct 9, 2007 15:42:25 GMT -6
Most Esteemed Squirrel King of Arms, I wish to place a final and complete request before the college:
Gyronny of 12 argent and sable, sceptre or intersecting vol or
I believe this is the correct blazon.
I would endeavour to make a draft of this blazon, however, my limited art skills prevent me from doing so. Would one of the Fellows of the College be able to take my blazon to paper, so that we could have a visualization?
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
Capitán of the Zouaves
Posts: 6,511
Talossan Since: 9-21-2006
Knight Since: 10-12-2010
Motto: Cuimhnichibh air na daoine bho'n d'thainig sibh
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Oct 9, 2007 15:46:59 GMT -6
::whew::
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