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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Sept 11, 2007 19:22:57 GMT -6
a blue field with two swords inverted argent, crossed in saltire and enflamed or, and an or canton with a blue star of david.
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Sept 11, 2007 21:49:16 GMT -6
Right.
We got that.
Thanks!
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Sept 13, 2007 6:11:26 GMT -6
Thanks a lot Mick, I'm very excited, and can't wait
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Post by Trotxâ on Sept 13, 2007 12:14:06 GMT -6
S:reu Gavárþic'h -
As a matter of form, we of the College ask you to keep your postings on your request for Arms in one continuous thread. On the College board, there is no need to create extra noise by spinning off a multiplicity of posts in duplicate threads.
It is indeed unfortunate that your faux pas is now public.
While we of the College appreciate your enthusiasm, we ask you to help us stay organized and focused. Superfluous postings, which add no value except in creating an inflated posting count, are discouraged.
With great thanks for your future assistance, we remain your obedient servants,
-- Jaune Sabre Herald, Squirrel King at Arms.
NB: Please do not add to the confusion by duplicating this thread in your original request.
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Sept 13, 2007 13:07:26 GMT -6
Sorry, it just seemed that the College could not understand my request, as I kept changing it to fit the laws of Heraldry, so I decided to just make one final post.
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Post by Trotxâ on Sept 13, 2007 15:11:48 GMT -6
Sorry, it just seemed that the College could not understand my request, as I kept changing it to fit the laws of Heraldry, so I decided to just make one final post. S:reu - Some might interpret your post as a suggestion that the College is too stupid to interpret your request. How unfortunate for you... Name: Alexandreu Gavártgic'h
Date of birth (Month/Day/Year): October 2, 1993 ...but I encourage the College to attribute this to your childish youth instead. As a friend, I must strongly encourage you to think before you post. Your continued mistakes, when added to your pointless jabbering, have severely prejudiced the opinions that many citizens hold about you. It is the sincere hope of the College that you have done nothing that might render you dishonourable. If that does happen, then your petitions for arms would be in vain. Best of luck, -- Jaune Sabre Herald, Squirrel King at Arms
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Sept 13, 2007 15:58:41 GMT -6
No, that was not my intention at all. It simply meant that I was too stupid/ignorant to understand the laws and regulations of heraldry, and kept posting and re-posting different requests which I assumed was very very confusing to everyone, so I just posted a new/fresh post that wasn't jargon, I did not mean to insult anyone, it was simply a bad choice of wording.
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Sept 15, 2007 16:05:05 GMT -6
sorry to bother you guys again, but do you think my coa will be ready by October 12?
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Post by Trotxâ on Sept 15, 2007 17:49:39 GMT -6
sorry to bother you guys again, but do you think my coa will be ready by October 12? or Is it done yet? Huh? Is it done yet? Huh? Huh? Patience, lad - We have approximately 600 hours before the deadline. Remember - some of us have real lives requiring actual work, so we can only check in here once per day. Instant gratification is an American trait. We are of Talossa, which is not the same. Please remember that the Fellows and staff of the College volunteer their time to help you. While we know it is difficult to wait an entire four days (or more), we ask for your fortitude and endurance while we prepare a memorable design for you. As it says on the College of Arms "Getting Started" page: Because arms are granted in perpetuity throughout the universe, and because of the need to research precedents and uniqueness, and because of the need to blazon correctly for the petition, the process of creating arms cannot be rushed. If the Squirrel King at Arms had not been forced to deal with many interruptions, a jot of chaos and a bit of persistent elbow-jogging, he might have time to assign your case to one of the Fellows of the College. We appreciate your amazing enthusiasm. Please allow us at least a few uninterrupted hours to do our work. We of the College sincerely hope that you will indeed be eligible for an award of arms on October 12. It is entirely likely that in the mere 25 days we have left, the College should be able to rush your blazon to completion. If you have not dishonoured yourself before that date, you might be eligible for an award from the King. -- Jaune Sabre Herald, Squirrel King at Arms. Postscript: We hope you will value, as do we of the College, correct English spellings and punctuations in all the postings on the Witt board belonging to the College. Somewhere, there's a place for Leetspeak. This is not that place.
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Post by Trotxâ on Sept 19, 2007 21:26:20 GMT -6
a blue field with two swords inverted argent, crossed in saltire and enflamed or, and an or canton with a blue star of david. 1. My pacifism is not a result of naivety. It simply stems from the fact that I would rather be killed the kill someone else. Even in self-defense. And I know that may seem stupid to a lot of people, but I have given it a lot of thought to this stuff and as Gandhi said "An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth shall make the whole world blind and toothless." That's what I believe in. The Squirrel King at Arms, taking into account the two conflicting and diametrically opposed postings from S:reu Gavárþic'h, finds that the second and more recent statement by the good gentleman should take precedence as a point in designing an appropriate achievement. We hereby ask S:reu Gavárþic'h to choose arms with a design more reflective of his personal philosophy. We of the College do not wish to force you to display the weapons of a warrior when it is clear you are not. It is also possible that other armigers whose escutcheons display weapons would not want to be connected to a philosophy opposed to their own. We of the College only wish to point out the great lack of logical consistency apparent in your request. Perhaps you can choose a beast of the field or a bird of the air instead of a weapon which could be used to poke out an eye. We of the College stand every ready to assist you with an appropriate design. We remain, your obedient servants, -- Jaune Sabre Herald, Squirrel King at Arms
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Sept 19, 2007 21:38:06 GMT -6
Your Honour, I realize that this is neither my thread nor, perhaps, my place as I am not a member of the College. But I have to vehemently protest this. It is obvious you are irritated with our overenthusiastic and rash new citizen, but telling him that you will not help him with the armorial design he has requested (admittedly in an annoying fashion) is not just. I would like to point out that it is not your responsibility as Squirrel King nor that of any Heralds of the College of Arms to make sure his arms are "logically consistent" with his avowed philosophy. As you no doubt know, flaming swords can symbolize many things beyond martial ability/inclination. I know you're irritated with S:reu Gavarpich (as are we all, because he is irritating), but please do not let that begin to affect the technical and ethical prowess which has marked you with such distinction in your Talossan career.
EDIT: I withdraw this assertion, as a more thorough reading has disavowed me of my previous impressions. I apologize.
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Post by Trotxâ on Sept 19, 2007 22:06:28 GMT -6
Your Honour, I realize that this is neither my thread nor, perhaps, my place as I am not a member of the College. But I have to vehemently protest this. It is obvious you are irritated with our overenthusiastic and rash new citizen, but telling him that you will not help him with the armorial design he has requested (admittedly in an annoying fashion) is not just. I would like to point out that it is not your responsibility as Squirrel King nor that of any Heralds of the College of Arms to make sure his arms are "logically consistent" with his avowed philosophy. As you no doubt know, flaming swords can symbolize many things beyond martial ability/inclination. I know you're irritated with S:reu Gavarpich (as are we all, because he is irritating), but please do not let that begin to affect the technical and ethical prowess which has marked you with such distinction in your Talossan career. S:reu Davis - Thank you for sharing your thoughts. You seem to focused on how "irritating" (to use your word) a certain new citizen is. Not all citizens share that perception. Perhaps the "irritation" and "annoyance" you suffer caused you to misinterpret my words. I ask you to reread my posting, noticing the phrases "ask", "do not wish to force" and "stand every ready to assist". A leader should always be interested in how others see his job, however right or wrong those others may be. It is our misfortune that you are not Fellow of the College. If you wish to join the College of Arms, the process is described here. Thank you also for acknowledging that this is not your thread. Yours in charity and logic, -- Jaune Sabre Herald, Squirrel King at Arms
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Sept 19, 2007 22:23:59 GMT -6
It is more than possible that I have misinterpreted your words. Indeed, knowing myself, it is even likely. Thank you for your patience, and I apologize for the interruption.
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Sept 19, 2007 22:43:41 GMT -6
S:reu Davis-
I heartily concur with the Jaune Sabre Herald, Squirrel King at Arms in his suggestion that you join the College.
I , for one, have learned a great deal about Heraldry in my brief time in the College. I wish you, nay I wish all could see the discussions we have when a citizen requests Arms. It is invigorating to see the discussion that goes on. I also find that even though I am but an Odd Fellow, my comments are held in the same regard as the more senior members of the College.
I have to agree with the Jaune Sabre Herald, Squirrel King at Arms - I am reluctant to approve the current design of our good citizen A. Gavárþic'h. He has stated a philosophical stance that is in contradiction to his request for arms. To actually quote a discussion I had with him myself-
Mick- "And, might I ask-
Why does a pacifist wish a Coat of Arms? With flaming Swords, no less?"
A. Gavárþic'h - "And btw... doves and peace symbols just don't look as cool... I have to admit..."
It is my lowly opinion that your Coat of Arms doesn't reflect "coolness" Instead, it reflects you, your personality, and what makes you...you.
I have :
"Argent a bend enhanced vert between the sun in its splendour gules and a greyhound passant proper."
Why?
The greyhound passant proper, because I have a whippet, and my love of animals. So it is something I embrace, and love dearly.
I could not carry on my Coat of Arms something I disagreed with- and a Sword to a Pacifist is a contradiction in it's highest.
But what do I know? I'm new here.
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Sept 20, 2007 19:14:31 GMT -6
I know you're irritated with S:reu Gavarpich (as are we all, because he is irritating). Is this a hint that I should leave...?
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