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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Sept 10, 2018 18:42:42 GMT -6
As to RZ4, The Royal Civil Service (Establishment) Bill, I vote për. I do not wholly agree with this, but it seems a general improvement.
As to RZ5, Budget for the 52nd Cosa, I abstain.
As to RZ6, An Act to Remove Béneditsch Ardpresteir from the Uppermost Cort of Talossa, I vote contrâ. It is foolish to impeach a justice over some of these things. We're impeaching him for failing to appear in cases in which he didn't need to appear? Nonsense.
RZ4 - Për RZ5 - Për RZ6 - It is foolish to buy into Alex's gas lighting. This bill is whether Talossa will tolerate a Justice of the Uppermost Cort making homophobic jokes. And at this point, Alex is more concerned with keeping a party member on the UC than doing the right thing. I vote PËR. And I do so to move passed this sorry episode.
Post by Þon Txoteu É. Davinescu on Sept 14, 2018 1:30:47 GMT -6
RZ4 - Për RZ5 - Për RZ6 - Për
VoC - Yes
The Most Honourable General Txoteu É. Davinescu La Mhinistrà dels Afaes Útphätseschti Foreign Affairs Minister of the Kingdom of Talossa ____________________________________________________ Member of the 52nd Cosa Commandant, Royal Talossan Marine Corps
I made a rookie mistake and voted in the Cosa thread instead of here. Please please forgive me! I'll just duplicate here just in case.
For the record, votes in this thread by Senators are just as valid as votes cast in the Senate room, though I suppose it is more traditional and possibly more orderly (although that is not for me to decide) to post in the Senate room. Duplicating was therefore not strictly necessary, but it always wise to make sure when in doubt. (It is certainly better than not doing so and then later finding out that your vote was invalid.) Your efforts to make sure are therefore appreciated. I just want to make clear that Senators are allowed to vote here.
V: If one takes issue with the current Covenants - I would support a rewrite to clean them up.
Feb 10, 2019 17:36:13 GMT -6
V: But that said, this argument that if we adopted the new Org Law and the Covenants, it would be inorganic is lost when we consider that by adopting the new org law, we relinquish the shackles of the old Org Law.
Feb 10, 2019 17:37:05 GMT -6
Sir Alexandreu Davinescu: You have some good points. To be sure, the longevity and tradition of the OrgLaw make it (and us) stand out from other, similar, places. But your argument here in this thread basically boils down to "it's too cumbersome." And that's not true.
Feb 10, 2019 20:02:08 GMT -6
Sir Alexandreu Davinescu: The new proposal is just as cumbersome and complicated, except where it has omissions that will need to be remedied. Even leaving aside the fatal flaws, it's not an improvement in this way, except for the lack of "holes."
Feb 10, 2019 20:03:20 GMT -6
Sir Alexandreu Davinescu: Ultimately, the same amount of effort spent amending the current OrgLaw would have had equal or superior effect to coming up with a new system of government, plus it wouldn't have trashed the old one to which we swore an oath.
Feb 10, 2019 20:04:18 GMT -6
Sir Alexandreu Davinescu: And finally, the entire process is being performed by the legislative process as normal, which means it is part of that process. Elevating new supreme documents so easily should not be possible, since that is dangerous and ill-conceived.
Feb 10, 2019 20:05:35 GMT -6
V: Not really - in effect- we're amending the prior org law by repealing all aspects of it and passing adopting new sections. So yoi can keep your longevity.
Feb 10, 2019 20:28:07 GMT -6
Ian Plätschisch: Yeah, the whole reason we aren't calling it "The 2019 Organic Law" is because you convinced us not to
Feb 10, 2019 20:46:13 GMT -6
Sir Alexandreu Davinescu: So... if you agree with me, why the argument? Yes, we're doing it entirely within the frame of the current Organic Law, passing a massive amendment to install a new constitution in its shell. Good, I guess, although this is a weird conversation.
Feb 10, 2019 22:02:41 GMT -6
Sir Alexandreu Davinescu: I am comforted by the fact that this probably won't pass referendum, but why run in circles like the above? Let's just be straightforward.
Feb 10, 2019 22:03:58 GMT -6
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