Glüc da Dhi
Secretary of State
Posts: 6,112
Talossan Since: 5-14-2009
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Aug 1, 2018 4:03:15 GMT -6
The August 2018 Clark is now here. www.talossa.ca/files/clark.php?cosa=52&clark=1 Or here: www.talossa.ca/files/print_clark.php (this is the printer friendly version) In PDF Form (which was made from the print_clark.php page): www.talossa.ca/files/clarks/August2018Clark.pdfor can vote online here: www.talossa.ca/files/clark_vote.phpOr in this thread, until the 21st of the month, at 19h30 TST. Senators are allowed to create a single thread in the Senate chamber to post all of the Senate Votes that are not cast in this thread. Any votes not posted either using the form above, the current thread or the Senate thread might be ignored and void. Please do not vote by email or private messages. When you vote, do not indicate any conditions which may make it sound like this vote isn't final: you can always change your vote later. Please do not vote by email: We've had problems with email votes being caught in the spam filter. All nominated Cosa Members and Senators have been emailed Glüc da Dhi Secretary of State
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Glüc da Dhi
Secretary of State
Posts: 6,112
Talossan Since: 5-14-2009
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Aug 1, 2018 4:16:39 GMT -6
I realise under view clark votes the database lists the wrong province for most senators. Cannot really fix that apparently, but I assume it will not mess up the results.
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Lüc da Schir
Senator for Benito
If Italy wins a Six Nations match I will join the Zouaves
Posts: 4,125
Talossan Since: 3-21-2012
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Post by Lüc da Schir on Aug 1, 2018 4:44:59 GMT -6
I guess the empty Florencian seat messed up the others.
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Glüc da Dhi
Secretary of State
Posts: 6,112
Talossan Since: 5-14-2009
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Aug 1, 2018 4:47:52 GMT -6
yup
(though things seem to be listed correctly on other parts of the db)
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Aug 1, 2018 8:09:51 GMT -6
As to RZ1, The [REDACTED] Act, I vote per. Seems like common sense.
As to RZ2, The Birds of a Feather Flock Together Act, I vote contra. The use of the term "acquaintance" is so broad that it means that simply knowing anyone in the country means I can ask to be put in their catchment. But if you know someone in the country, you already have a bond with them, and the whole point of the catchments is to use this sorting process to help develop other and new bonds with Talossans who are geographically nearby (or at least more so than usual). And we already did this, and then we undid it, and now we're back here again with no reasoning as to why it's more likely to work this time.
As to RZ3, Yet Another Error Correction Act, I vote per. Seems like common sense.
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Post by Colonel Mximo Carbonèl on Aug 1, 2018 23:38:36 GMT -6
Azul
My vote
RZ1 PER RZ2 CONTRA RZ3 PER
VOC NO
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Post by Þon Txoteu É. Davinescu on Aug 4, 2018 8:03:56 GMT -6
RZ1 PER RZ2 CONTRA RZ3 PER
VOC Üc
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Post by Eðo Grischun on Aug 6, 2018 4:11:42 GMT -6
RZ1: A step in the right direction. PER RZ2: No chat needed, it's all been said. CONTRA RZ3: Nice and simple. PER
VOC: UC
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Aug 7, 2018 14:24:44 GMT -6
RZ1 - Për RZ2 - Contrâ RZ3 - Për
VOC: Uc
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Post by E.S. Bornatfiglheu on Aug 11, 2018 5:01:03 GMT -6
RZ1 - Për RZ2 - Contrâ RZ3 - Për
VoC: Uc
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Glüc da Dhi
Secretary of State
Posts: 6,112
Talossan Since: 5-14-2009
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Aug 11, 2018 15:05:21 GMT -6
As to RZ1, The [REDACTED] Act, I vote per. Seems like common sense. As to RZ2, The Birds of a Feather Flock Together Act, I vote contra. The use of the term "acquaintance" is so broad that it means that simply knowing anyone in the country means I can ask to be put in their catchment. But if you know someone in the country, you already have a bond with them, and the whole point of the catchments is to use this sorting process to help develop other and new bonds with Talossans who are geographically nearby (or at least more so than usual). And we already did this, and then we undid it, and now we're back here again with no reasoning as to why it's more likely to work this time. As to RZ3, Yet Another Error Correction Act, I vote per. Seems like common sense. This vote has not been entered (yet) as it does not (yet) contain a VoC.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Aug 11, 2018 15:28:15 GMT -6
Well, there's no IQ requirement for MCs, which is the only reason they ever let me in.
VOC: UC
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Post by Viteu Marcianüs on Aug 11, 2018 20:58:04 GMT -6
I shall vote as follows:
RZ1 PER RZ2 PER RZ3 PER
VOC Üc
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Post by Munditenens Tresplet on Aug 13, 2018 8:58:02 GMT -6
On RZ1 and RZ3, I vote Për.
On RZ2, I abstain, noting the primary author's yielding of his position to opposing views. If he had not, I likely would have continued to abstain, as while I feel this bill could be strengthened in certain areas (see MC Davinescu's point on the term "acquaintance"), I agree with the overall point to the legislation. If a close friend of mine who lived in my same catchment area wished to become a citizen of the Kingdom, he or she would be assigned to M-M rather than Maricopa. I believe that every effort should be made to keep new citizens active in the Kingdom so they will ultimately remain, and one way not to do that is to assign them to a provincial identity that differs from their close friends. I recognize that I could choose to make a one-way move to M-M, but why should I abandon my well entrenched provincial identity for someone who is just starting out, when I would be unable to show them the ins-and-outs of a new province anyway? I hope the author of RZ2 doesn't completely abandon his initial views on this bill, and chooses to bring a more workable to solution for the Ziu's consideration in the future.
On the question of the VoC, while I struggle to vote in favor of a government who chooses to declare Atatürk any color other than yellow, it is my personal policy to assent to the First Clark of a new government term. I further continue to support all of the FreeDem ministers, as well as all of the recent actions of the Prime Ministry with the notable exception of 52PD1. Therefore, ÜC.
Furthermore, pursuant to Lex.H.9, I hereby declare that for the 52nd Cosa Term I will be representing the far-too-unrepresented territory of Péngöpäts.
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Post by Béneditsch Ardpresteir, O.SPM. on Aug 16, 2018 7:20:13 GMT -6
I vote Contra to the three bills. There are lot many changes which could have been Incorporated.
Voc: No
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