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Post by Inxheneu Crova on Jul 25, 2015 7:49:18 GMT -6
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Post by Magniloqueu Épiqeu da Lhiun on Jul 25, 2015 8:38:41 GMT -6
An excellent article, and you raise some good points, S:reu Crovâ.
However, I doubt that respect and trust can be had for this King ever again. At least, it will be difficult to regain my trust.
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Gaglhen Fortaleça
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Post by Gaglhen Fortaleça on Jul 25, 2015 11:55:08 GMT -6
Let alone the trust of the Socialist Party
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jul 25, 2015 19:30:35 GMT -6
There's also the court case over whether the King is really allowed to do this. The hardcore monarchists who have lined up in favour of the King being able to single-handedly trash OrgLaw amendments may have to choose between the King and the Monarchy - i.e. what if the incumbent is simply no longer trusted by a supermajority of the people to use his power wisely?
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Post by D. N. Vercáriâ on Jul 26, 2015 2:40:25 GMT -6
I guess there wouldn't be many Talossans to gather around a hereditary President for Lifetime, or a Generalissimus, or some such. But as soon as the romanticism of medieval monarchy is attached to the concept of a single, democratically indisposable ruler, everybody has tears of enchantment in their eyes. Isn't it strange?
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Glüc da Dhi
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Jul 28, 2015 15:41:40 GMT -6
Great article.
I'm afraid His Majesty does not intend to undo his veto though.
Either way, I will trust the King again when he signs an amendment limiting his veto powers (we should give him the chance to do so first of course).
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
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Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jul 28, 2015 16:15:38 GMT -6
Sadly, his Talossanic Majesty seems to be able to operate without the trust or affection of a great number of people. I think that's what's called "monarchy".
Micronational monarchists seem to have an idea that they can pick someone who will be immune to public pressure and at the same time show a high level of integrity, for life.
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Glüc da Dhi
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Jul 28, 2015 16:17:01 GMT -6
Why do you think the King will be immune to public pressure?
Usually I'm the pessimist.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
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Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jul 28, 2015 18:00:06 GMT -6
Because he has been so far. It's a benefit of barely being involved in Talossa. For all I know, he only checks things out when some RUMPer complains that the reformists are getting too uppity.
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Gaglhen Fortaleça
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Post by Gaglhen Fortaleça on Jul 28, 2015 19:21:06 GMT -6
Hear hear!
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Jul 29, 2015 3:40:55 GMT -6
We'll see. Personally I still believe this will be solved, though it may take a while.
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