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Post by Pôl d'Aurìbuérg on Jul 18, 2015 6:39:25 GMT -6
Welcome senators to the July voting thread.
Here is my votes:
48RZ1: PER
48RZ2: ABSTAIN
48RZ3: PER
48RZ4: CONTRA
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jul 18, 2015 16:59:32 GMT -6
That's a big PËR on all four from Fiovâ.
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Post by Txosuè Éiric Rôibeardescù on Jul 19, 2015 2:45:56 GMT -6
48RZ1: ABSTAIN
48RZ2: ABSTAIN
48RZ3: Contrâ
48RZ4: CONTRA
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Lüc da Schir
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Post by Lüc da Schir on Jul 19, 2015 3:11:17 GMT -6
RZ1 - Abstain. I agree with the bill in principle, but I must take into account the remarks made by my colleague the Senator for Maritiimi-Maxhestic.
RZ2 - Për.
RZ3 - Për.
RZ4 - Për.
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Post by Magniloqueu Épiqeu da Lhiun on Jul 19, 2015 10:02:58 GMT -6
I have posted this in the Senator's thread of MM, in the Clark thread, but what the heckie, let's do it one more time:
RZ1 - Contra: This bill, and I repeat myself, is good insofar as to its intentions. However, the wording, and the fact that there is a subsection trying to be included in the OrgLaw (while the OrgLaw knows of no such subsections) makes me really frustrated about it. So I must vote it down.
RZ2 - Per
RZ3 - Per
RZ4 - Per
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Post by Munditenens Tresplet on Jul 19, 2015 11:01:39 GMT -6
48RZ1 - Abstain. Once again, although I support the what this amendment seeks to accomplish, we need to break our habit of adding so much detail to OrgLaw.
48RZ2 - Për.
48RZ3 - Për.
48RZ4 - Contrâ.
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Post by Magniloqueu Épiqeu da Lhiun on Jul 19, 2015 15:48:54 GMT -6
You do know that if you abstain, you basically vote "per". I'm confused as to all of my fellow Senators' intentions.
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Post by Munditenens Tresplet on Jul 19, 2015 17:16:10 GMT -6
You do know that if you abstain, you basically vote "per". I'm confused as to all of my fellow Senators' intentions. I believe my own intentions have been made very clear, and no, an abstention is not the same as a Per. |
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Post by Magniloqueu Épiqeu da Lhiun on Jul 20, 2015 5:35:31 GMT -6
Well, in this case, an abstention is the same as per, since we have less non than per votes for that bill...
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Post by Sevastáin Pinátsch on Jul 20, 2015 9:14:43 GMT -6
For transparency:
48RZ1 - Për.
48RZ2 - Për.
48RZ3 - Për.
48RZ4 - Për.
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Post by Munditenens Tresplet on Jul 21, 2015 14:56:22 GMT -6
After much thought and consideration, and assuming there is still time, I change my vote on 48RZ1 from Abstain to Contra.
I do this because there is a more appropriate amendment in the Hopper that addresses this issue, and that one should be the one considered. Having said that, I withhold my full views on the other amendment until a later date.
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Lüc da Schir
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Post by Lüc da Schir on Jul 21, 2015 15:09:02 GMT -6
I am also tempted to do the same, but the bill is well short of a majority in the Cosa, so I think I can safely keep my abstention as it is.
Also, well, it's too bad to see that RZ4 won't make it through the Ziu. We're still stuck with non-SI units, then.
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