Gaglhen Fortaleça
Citizen of Talossa
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Post by Gaglhen Fortaleça on Jun 5, 2015 5:19:23 GMT -6
AND Whereas Article XIII Section V currently reads:
Duration of the Government. Members of the Government take office when appointed by the King and leave office when dismissed by the King. Such appointments and dismissals are regulated elsewhere in this Organic Law.
Shall be amended to read:
Duration of the Government. Members of the Government take office when appointed by the Seneschal and leave office when dismissed by the Seneschal. Such appointments and dismissals are regulated elsewhere in this Organic Law.
AND Whereas Article XIII Section VI currently reads:
Vote of Confidence. The Clark must contain, in every edition, a Vote of Confidence. This reads as follows: "Do you wish the current Government to continue in its term of office?" Each MC must answer this question in his Clark ballot every month, either with a "yes" or a "no." If at the end of any month the "no" vote outnumbers the "yes" vote, the King shall dissolve the Cosâ and call new elections.
Shall be amended to read:
Vote of Confidence. The Clark must contain, in every edition, a Vote of Confidence. This reads as follows: "Do you wish the current Government to continue in its term of office?" Each MC must answer this question in his Clark ballot every month, either with a "yes" or a "no." If at the end of any month the "no" vote outnumbers the "yes" vote, the Speaker of the Cosa shall dissolve the Cosa and call new elections.
P.S. This is the last part of a 3 part Amendment
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Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă
Puisne (Associate) Justice of the Uppermost Court
Fraichetz dels punts, es non dels mürs
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Post by Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă on Jun 5, 2015 6:36:14 GMT -6
The Speaker of the Cosa dissolving the Cosa? You really don't seem to understand how a constitutional monarchy works. So far, all 3 amendments you have proposed are unworkable because you remove the checks and balances. Also, all three "powers" you are trying to remove are all of them ceremonial in nature. The king really has no constitutional choice in any of these (not to mention not one of these would ever get past the throne).
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Gaglhen Fortaleça
Citizen of Talossa
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Talossan Since: 4-23-2015
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Post by Gaglhen Fortaleça on Jun 5, 2015 9:56:30 GMT -6
The Speaker of the Cosa dissolving the Cosa? You really don't seem to understand how a constitutional monarchy works. So far, all 3 amendments you have proposed are unworkable because you remove the checks and balances. Also, all three "powers" you are trying to remove are all of them ceremonial in nature. The king really has no constitutional choice in any of these (not to mention not one of these would ever get past the throne). Thank you, I am going to keep this in mind when I work on the 3rd version |
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Gaglhen Fortaleça
Citizen of Talossa
Glory to the Proletariat
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Talossan Since: 4-23-2015
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Post by Gaglhen Fortaleça on Jun 5, 2015 9:58:12 GMT -6
Dr. I don't want to hold a grudge with you so if you could understand that I am new at this then maybe we could work together on the 3rd version. I need help from others to refine and perfect it
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Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă
Puisne (Associate) Justice of the Uppermost Court
Fraichetz dels punts, es non dels mürs
Posts: 4,063
Talossan Since: 9-23-2012
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Post by Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă on Jun 5, 2015 10:07:54 GMT -6
Dr. I don't want to hold a grudge with you so if you could understand that I am new at this then maybe we could work together on the 3rd version. I need help from others to refine and perfect it I am merely pointing out the flaw in your proposals. |
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Post by Sevastáin Pinátsch on Jun 5, 2015 10:12:55 GMT -6
Dr. I don't want to hold a grudge with you so if you could understand that I am new at this I hope that won't be a problem. Proposing legislation is definitely not for the thin-skinned. One really needs to be open to criticism (constructive, and otherwise) and not feel personally insulted when people disagree with one's ideas. In fact, it's the only way to become a better writer of bills and to get people to want to co-sponsor. As I said elsewhere, I fear this one is too transformational and politically divisive to gather the necessary support. |
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Jun 5, 2015 10:48:07 GMT -6
Dr. I don't want to hold a grudge with you so if you could understand that I am new at this then maybe we could work together on the 3rd version. I need help from others to refine and perfect it I am merely pointing out the flaw in your proposals. Yes, Txec is doing exactly what a good legislator should do: hunt down flaws, ambiguities, and the unworkable. It is not just a favor to Galen, but it's a favor to the nation. When I look at legislation, I try to think about how it could go wrong, not just how it could go right. |
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Sir C. M. Siervicül
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Post by Sir C. M. Siervicül on Jun 5, 2015 10:55:18 GMT -6
I am merely pointing out the flaw in your proposals. Yes, Txec is doing exactly what a good legislator should do: hunt down flaws, ambiguities, and the unworkable. It is not just a favor to Galen, but it's a favor to the nation. When I look at legislation, I try to think about how it could go wrong, not just how it could go right. I wish someone had discovered and pointed out the flaw in the judicial reform amendment Txec and I worked up: not spelling out the impact on the electoral commission up front.  It would only have allowed us to make it stronger. |
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Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă
Puisne (Associate) Justice of the Uppermost Court
Fraichetz dels punts, es non dels mürs
Posts: 4,063
Talossan Since: 9-23-2012
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Post by Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă on Jun 5, 2015 10:58:50 GMT -6
Yes, Txec is doing exactly what a good legislator should do: hunt down flaws, ambiguities, and the unworkable. It is not just a favor to Galen, but it's a favor to the nation. When I look at legislation, I try to think about how it could go wrong, not just how it could go right. I wish someone had discovered and pointed out the flaw in the judicial reform amendment Txec and I worked up: not spelling out the impact on the electoral commission up front. It would only have allowed us to make it stronger. Yeah that one got by us didn't it? Well we can fix it this term. |
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Gaglhen Fortaleça
Citizen of Talossa
Glory to the Proletariat
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Talossan Since: 4-23-2015
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Post by Gaglhen Fortaleça on Jun 6, 2015 10:36:13 GMT -6
I am merely pointing out the flaw in your proposals. Yes, Txec is doing exactly what a good legislator should do: hunt down flaws, ambiguities, and the unworkable. It is not just a favor to Galen, but it's a favor to the nation. When I look at legislation, I try to think about how it could go wrong, not just how it could go right. I didn't mean to sound as if I was offended, I just felt as if I should point out that we need to work together. 3rd edition will probably be released this weekend |
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It would only have allowed us to make it stronger.
