Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Jan 31, 2020 17:14:03 GMT -6
Yeah, I'm just reading about that. Didn't know that either. Weird. I've been doing it wrong for well over ten years. So, it's just Euros. Not short for anything. OK. The Euro being the "language neutral" successor to the ECU, which was felt by various nations to have a name that favored the languages of English (because it was "European Currency Unit") and French (because a historic French coin was the écu). See similar phenomena in the abbreviations UTC and ISO, which were chosen specifically because they didn't correspond to the actual names in either English (Coordinated Universal Time/International Organization for Standardization)) or French (temps universel coordonné/Organisation internationale de normalisation).
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Jan 6, 2020 2:57:19 GMT -6
Does Benitian law have a mechanism in place for when a party fails to assign it's local seats, such as having them revert to the Constable or Governor for assignment? No, I do not believe so. Certainly effective practice has been that open seats (whether from the beginning or opened by resignation) are perpetually available for the winning party to fill.
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Jan 3, 2020 3:02:48 GMT -6
Okay, so far we have six of eleven seats in the Benito Legislative Assembly filled. Other party leaders really should fill their party's seats. Since the NPW has filled its seats, has a majority of the whole Assembly, and has nominated a Maestro, I'm going to go ahead and use my vague power to make expediting rulings to declare their nominee, E.S. Bornatfiglheu , is Maestro by consent of a majority of the Assembly. This decision, of course, can be appealed to a roll-call vote on the floor of the Assembly, and of course, the members could call a vote of confidence to remove him as well. I'll tender my opinion here that a move of the Benitan Assembly to NewWitt is a matter for provincial decision rather than just whatever the national government/chancery decides, and so can be done whenever the Province so chooses.
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Dec 21, 2019 20:39:40 GMT -6
Okay, for a random process outside my ability to influence, I am going to use the Wisconsin Daily Pick 4 for Saturday. If the first number is 0, 1, or 2, a seat will be awarded to the alphabetically first of the three parties, Moderate Radicals Arise. If the first number is 3, 4, or 5, a seat will be awarded to the alphabetically second of the three parties, the Peculiar National Party. If the first number is 6, 7, or 8, a seat will be awarded to the alphabetically third of the three parties, the Zefençadeirs del Päts Talossan. If the first number is 9, we'll evaluate the second number as above. if the second number is a 9, we'll move on to the third, if the third number is 9, then the fourth, and then if necessary the 1st, second, and 3rd numbers in the Pick 3 game. If that still fails to resolve, we'll use the Sunday drawings in the same order, and following dates as necessary, for as many dates as necessary. If the Wisconsin lottery ends its pick games before January 1st, probably due to force majeure, we will use the lottery of Talossa's neighbor across Lake Michigan, the state of Michigan. If we are still unresolved on January 1st, I'll invent a new procedure based on whatever seems best to me to somehow curse, since we'll clearly be dealing with one. After that seat is allocated, we'll use the next number in the sequence defined above to determine which of the two remaining parties gets the second seat. If 0, 1, 2, 3, or 4, the seat will go to the alphabetically prior of the two remaining parties; if 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9, then the alphabetically latter of the two. Okay, the numbers picked in the Saturday, December 21st drawing were 4, 2, 6, 0. The first number being 4, the seat goes to the PNP. The PNP has 2 seats to fill. The second number being 2, the seat goes to Moderate Radicals Arise. Moderate Radicals Arise has two seats to fill. Sorry, ZPT, looks like you got the short draw. The ZPT has only one seat to fill.
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Dec 21, 2019 1:53:59 GMT -6
Okay, for a random process outside my ability to influence, I am going to use the Wisconsin Daily Pick 4 for Saturday. If the first number is 0, 1, or 2, a seat will be awarded to the alphabetically first of the three parties, Moderate Radicals Arise. If the first number is 3, 4, or 5, a seat will be awarded to the alphabetically second of the three parties, the Peculiar National Party. If the first number is 6, 7, or 8, a seat will be awarded to the alphabetically third of the three parties, the Zefençadeirs del Päts Talossan. If the first number is 9, we'll evaluate the second number as above. if the second number is a 9, we'll move on to the third, if the third number is 9, then the fourth, and then if necessary the 1st, second, and 3rd numbers in the Pick 3 game. If that still fails to resolve, we'll use the Sunday drawings in the same order, and following dates as necessary, for as many dates as necessary. If the Wisconsin lottery ends its pick games before January 1st, probably due to force majeure, we will use the lottery of Talossa's neighbor across Lake Michigan, the state of Michigan. If we are still unresolved on January 1st, I'll invent a new procedure based on whatever seems best to me to somehow curse, since we'll clearly be dealing with one. After that seat is allocated, we'll use the next number in the sequence defined above to determine which of the two remaining parties gets the second seat. If 0, 1, 2, 3, or 4, the seat will go to the alphabetically prior of the two remaining parties; if 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9, then the alphabetically latter of the two.
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Dec 18, 2019 21:36:43 GMT -6
The webpage seems way out-of-date, so I don't trust it.
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Dec 17, 2019 1:26:26 GMT -6
Oops, the forum I posted to is not particularly huge so I wasn't expecting that this would create a lot more work for you. And there hasn't been (which on net is unfortunate), so certainly no worries. And because of this, I checked the PayPal account, and discovered an order made by someone on November 28 that got spam-filtered by my email system, and accordingly now can take care of it. So, this was serendipitously helpful.
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Dec 16, 2019 20:50:24 GMT -6
As far as the size/weight/composition that the follow-up post in that thread asked about: The coins were minted by Osborne Coinage at 1.125" in "Goldine", a shiny golden brass. That's approximately 28.5mm, and per www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v15n12a18.html goldine is 67% copper, 33% zinc. Weight is 9 grams according to my digital kitchen scale; the scale is clearly labeled NOT FOR TRADE, has not been calibrated since it was manufactured, and has been (for example) dropped a few times, so that should be taken as a rough approximation.
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Dec 16, 2019 17:56:27 GMT -6
Surely we are happy with non-Talossans not getting the Talossan discount? If so, then we can be (slightly) merciful with the shipping costs? If the proper people (the PM or the MinFin) want to make those policy changes, that's fine. But they would have to inform me that they're making them, since I'm the person in physical custody of the coins, who operates the account that receives and processes the orders, and who packs and ships them. The MinStuff can't make those changes, particularly by the mechanism of posting to a random message board not related to Talossa. The only reasonable interpretation of his post is that it was erroneous. (I might also mention that I'm not ecstatic that an action was taken to drum up more work for me without telling me in advance. But any person could point out the availability of the coins on any forum that they like, so I didn't bring it up as a concern. I'm just pointing out the post was inaccurate.)
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Dec 16, 2019 17:22:19 GMT -6
I have two concerns about that posting. 1) Current pricing on the coins is $5, not $7.50. 2) Current international shipping is $1.15.
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Dec 15, 2019 14:11:22 GMT -6
The certified election results are:
NPW 4 PRESENT 5 PNP 1 MODERATE RADICALS ARISE 1 ZPT 1
Votes for PRESENT, of course, are not used for allocating parties, so seven votes were cast for seats. Since everybody else who cast votes cast them for parties this time, there are no issues of interpretation this election, for the first time since I've been doing this. We accordingly can go right ahead and use Hare-Niemeyer:
Party Calculation Seats New Peculiar Way 4/(7/11) = 6 seats, 0.2857 remainder Moderate Radicals Arise 1/(7/11) = 1 seat, 0.5714 remainder Peculiar National Party 1/(7/11) = 1 seat, 0.5714 remainder Zefençadeirs del Päts Talossan 1/(7/11) = 1 seat, 0.5714 remainder
9 integer seats, largest remainder: 3-way tie.
Which means I've got to work out how to assign two seats to three parties, while the NPW can go ahead and name their seat-holder(s) and a Maestro since they have an outright majority.
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
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Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Dec 7, 2019 13:36:56 GMT -6
But he DOES have a vote and is simply not allowed to “vote his seat”. The distinction is incredibly important. It's important, yes, but from the other side. He has a seat, but he does not have a vote. By your interpretation, the Senator-elect is not a member at all and lacks equal standing, which is untrue and is in conflict with OrgLaw principles (and standard parliamentary procedure). The existence of members of bodies without a vote might be nonstandard, but it isn't unprecedented. For example, there are the six non-voting members of the United States House of Representatives. But if he does not attempt to vote, he has not failed to vote, because it is neither customary nor expected that someone who does not have a vote will cast a vote. Then by corollary, someone in prison -- thinking specifically of one person in particular -- cannot accumulate strikes under Three Strikes, since it's not possible for them to vote, then? No. Someone in prison still has a vote in Talossa, and so they are expected to vote. That they cannot exercise their vote is a circumstance beyond their control, but it is still a failure to vote their vote. A penguin cannot fail to fly; an eagle in a small cage can.
Anyway. That's my two bence, but it's not like I'm a member of the Cort, Ziu, or Bar.
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Dec 7, 2019 0:59:15 GMT -6
If someone cannot do something, they fail to do it. It may be unfortunate or unfair, but it remains true. In the terms being presented, "failure to vote" just means that the person did not vote. There is no conditional element to it, such as "due to circumstances beyond their control." The issue is not "due to circumstances beyond their control". The issue is that to leave something undone only constitutes failure when it is customary or expected to be done. That you did not introduce the Trans-Pacific Partnership to the US Congress for enactment into law does not mean that you failed to do it (because of circumstances beyond your control); it simply indicates that you have never been in a position where it would be customary or expected, by anyone, that you do it. On the other hand, Barack Obama did so fail. He had the power, and the expectation came into existence when he signed it and thus committed under international law to see it come into effect. Why he did not to do so is of course irrelevant to the fact that he failed . . . but the irrelevance of the reason in his case does not metastasize into a failure by the other seven billion people in the world because they also did not take that action. If I try to fly by flapping my arms hard, I will fail. This is a separate sense/meaning of "fail", which is entirely dependent on the attempt. If you tried that, you would fail, but you are not at this moment failing at flying by flapping your arms because you are not attempting to, you are not expected to, and it is not customary for you to. If Regeu fails to vote in two consecutive Clarks, even if it is impossible for him to do so, then he has failed to vote. But if he does not attempt to vote, he has not failed to vote, because it is neither customary nor expected that someone who does not have a vote will cast a vote.
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Dec 6, 2019 20:06:43 GMT -6
I didn't miss it; I just worded it more obtusely. - Under which circumstances, if any, may a member of the Senäts "fail to vote" without triggering V.5?
That's not the question. The question is, do all cases of a vote not being cast qualify as a case of failing to vote? Here I'll go to the tenth definition in the OED: 10. a. trans. To leave undone, omit to perform, miss (some customary or expected action). Obs. exc. with inf. as object. If a senator with the right to vote does not cast one, then they have failed to vote; they have omitted or missed the performance of their expected action. They might have a very good reason (tending an uncle with bladder cancer), but they still left the act undone. But if a senator without a vote does not cast one, there is no failure. There is no action which they were expected to take, because there was no vote they could cast. They have made no omission, they left nothing undone. There was nothing to do.
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Nov 15, 2019 1:37:09 GMT -6
The Awakening and Magnifying Passion fee has been received for the 54th Cosa Election.
PAID FEES:
The ZPT has PAID IN FULL. The Freedeems have PAID IN FULL. The PNP has PAID IN FULL. The NPW has PAID IN FULL. MTGA has PAID IN FULL. The AMP has PAID IN FULL.
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