The Talossan Translator's Corps Act

[M.T. Patritz da Biondeu]

Why not just make Büreu del Glheþ Talossan an independent body controlled by the Ziu?

[Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă]

Apr 19, 2013 13:27:26 GMT -6 M.T. Patritz da Biondeu said:

Why not just make Büreu del Glheþ Talossan an independent body controlled by the Ziu?

Works for me.

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Here's the thing, it's not really "independent" or "free from government" if it is controlled by the Ziu.

[M.T. Patritz da Biondeu]

I think they are proposing to be held accountable to the whole Ziu versus just the party (or coalition) in charge.

I could be wrong though...

[Deleted]

If there is a job to officially translate government documents, then it should be a government job. If somebody wants to translate other documents, it could very well be a private group. I mean, we're really just talking about translating documents here. I don't see how that could be bogged down by partisan bickering.

[D. N. Vercáriâ]

Apr 19, 2013 14:13:36 GMT -6 Viteu Marcianüs said:

If there is a job to officially translate government documents, then it should be a government job. If somebody wants to translate other documents, it could very well be a private group. I mean, we're really just talking about translating documents here. I don't see how that could be bogged down by partisan bickering.

As much as it would be nice to have all Talossan documents available in all or almost all languages that are spoken by Talossans, I guess we don't have the capacities to install a steadily working governmental translation service. We are not the European Union. Wishful thinking doesn't help us out of the dilemma.

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

I don't care whether it's called Translators Corps or Bureu del Glheþ. Let's have an official translator's organisation.

I would certainly volunteer for such an organisation if it were a "public service" role, but I won't work in a political role. I understand that the US civil service isn't non-political as it is in Western countries, so maybe some of our USAmerican citizens might not get the distinction. I will work for the government but not be part of the government. That's what we mean by "independent".

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Apr 19, 2013 14:29:25 GMT -6 Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN said:

I don't care whether it's called Translators Corps or Bureu del Glheþ. Let's have an official translator's organisation.

I would certainly volunteer for such an organisation if it were a "public service" role, but I won't work in a political role. I understand that the US civil service isn't non-political as it is in Western countries, so maybe some of our USAmerican citizens might not get the distinction. I will work for the government but not be part of the government. That's what we mean by "independent".

I'm so glad we have you hear to educate us dumb 'muricans. I know it is a tremendous stress on you but we really appreciate it.

Moving on- I very well know the difference between independent and "government" and I can tell you, that even though many aspects of our civil service are "independent" of the government, they still are greatly influenced by those governing. Take the USPS for instance, an "independent" agency of the US federal government, and how they got screwed over by congress back in 2006. Pretty independent, eh?

[Iustì Carlüs Canun]

Apr 19, 2013 13:27:26 GMT -6 M.T. Patritz da Biondeu said:

Why not just make Büreu del Glheþ Talossan an independent body controlled by the Ziu?

Now that this has been said, I'd actually rather do it this way. If we want to move the Büreu out from under the MinCult, that'd probably be better.

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

Wow, Viteu, you always take everything I write as a personal insult.

I say it again: I would work as a mail carrier in the US, or indeed in any role where the State paid my wages, but I wouldn't work in a position of political authority under the Obama administration because I disagree with his politics and won't support them. Does that make things clearer?

[Capt. Sir Mick Preston]

I understand that the US civil service isn't non-political as it is in Western countries...

Just a note, Dame Miestra - and not as an adversary, but for information purposes.

The vast majority of "Civil Service" employees in the USA, both Federal and in the individual States are not political positions at all. Just the opposite. They are hired on merit, receive raises on merit, and are dismissed on merit. They stay in their jobs for merit, not for political beliefs.

Their upper tier bosses are Political Appointees. They serve at the behest of the President/ Governor / Mayor.

[Lüc da Schir]

I'd like to cosponsor.

[Deleted]

Apr 19, 2013 21:02:40 GMT -6 Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN said:

Wow, Viteu, you always take everything I write as a personal insult.

I say it again: I would work as a mail carrier in the US, or indeed in any role where the State paid my wages, but I wouldn't work in a position of political authority under the Obama administration because I disagree with his politics and won't support them. Does that make things clearer?

You know what, you're not even worth debating with until you can learn a bit about civility and learn how to not be so damn condescending. I'm done trying to reach out to you.

[Sir C. M. Siervicül]

How is a ministerial position translating official documents a "position of political authority"?

[Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă]

Apr 20, 2013 8:44:31 GMT -6 Sir C. M. Siervicül said:

How is a ministerial position translating official documents a "position of political authority"?

Maybe it's some form of conspiracy wherein they mistranslate the document to change the law?