Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on May 20, 2012 16:15:14 GMT -6
If you have any questions for independent Senatorial candidate Istefan Perþonest, former Distáin in a Progressive Conservative government, current MC for the CSPP, current Regent of the University of Talossa, hopeful future head of the Royal Bank & Post, driving force behind the "Perþonest Plan" that outlined the borders of Fiôvâ, and author of the Party Registration Regularity Act, feel free to ask them here.
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Glüc da Dhi
Secretary of State
Posts: 6,112
Talossan Since: 5-14-2009
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on May 21, 2012 17:14:42 GMT -6
Do you think Talossans should be free to be a citizen of another micronation?
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on May 21, 2012 18:55:13 GMT -6
Yes.
I was made a citizen on Talossa on the very same Clark as the Dual Citizenships Act was proposed by King Robert I. I thought it was a stupid idea then, motivated out of spite against Penguinea, and I think its essential prohibition is not particularly worthwhile now.
Certainly, some people might join Talossa to learn how it works, and then try to launch their own imitators based on that understanding. But I don't understand how anyone thinks prohibition on dual citizenship would stop that. It doesn't stop someone from becoming a Talossan in the first place, it doesn't stop them from learning, and it doesn't stop them from leaving. The only thing it does is make sure that they don't stick around.
As far as the fact that micronational participation could take time away people could use on Talossa — the same it true of jobs, romantic relationships, schoolwork, playing Diplomacy, drinking beer, having children, going to church, and any of a million other things.
It's theoretically possible people might try to draw Talossa into the affairs of micronations by joining us as citizens and then using internal politics to pull us in that direction. I think there's more than enough national inertia to keep that from happening.
That leaves us with, perhaps, distaste for other micronations, part and parcel of the same attitude that dislikes calling Talossa a micronation. We don't want to be like them, and want to distinguish ourselves from them. So we reject the label "micronation" and ban "dual citizenship"—people have to choose to be one of us or one of them, so it's harder to confuse the two groups. This is a natural reaction; I just am perhaps a bit too proud of Talossa to see it as necessary. We don't need bans on dual citizenship in micronations to mark ourselves as distinct from the ordinary run of such any more than New Zealand or Germany needs a law prohibiting dual citizenship in Talossa to maintain their distinctiveness.
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Post by Ián B. Anglatzarâ on May 22, 2012 0:02:20 GMT -6
Hear, hear!
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Lüc da Schir
Senator for Benito
If Italy wins a Six Nations match I will join the Zouaves
Posts: 4,125
Talossan Since: 3-21-2012
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Post by Lüc da Schir on May 22, 2012 11:55:27 GMT -6
Do you think Talossans should be free to be a citizen of another micronation? Yes, in fact Glüc is the only talossan guy who knows my double-micronation-life. I was the Prime Minister of the Republic of Lucania, an italian micronation with about 20 citizens. I resigned by my role at the end of my 2nd mandate, and renounced my citizenship the 25th of March, according to the Semi-permeable Wall Act. Currently I am honourary citizen of the Republic, without official and unofficial tasks (and in fact I can't vote), appointed by the new President, Emanuele, new head of my party, the Conservatives. The new PM, elected with the 60% of votes, is my sister, of the Centrist Democratic Union. I surely will vote Istefan if he allows me to rejoin the Republic. And if he restore the Benito chamber. So, s:reu Perphonest, your answer?
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on May 22, 2012 14:10:59 GMT -6
S:reu Lüc da Schir: My answer on you rejoining the Republic of Lucania is two posts above yours; it was a "Yes".
On the Benito Legislative Chancellery, I would be happy to help restore it to activity, but I think that has to be done on the provincial level, while the Senate is a national office. Indeed, as a Senator, I would be barred from leading the chamber, though I believe I could serve in it.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2012 18:03:40 GMT -6
Correct.
ANY citizen of Benito can propose legislation. A Senator is restricted to holding only one seat in the Chancellery and may NOT be the Maestro or the Vicere.
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on May 29, 2012 20:54:04 GMT -6
To make sure everyone's clear:
While I was in the CSPP this last Cosa, and while the CSPP has endorsed me as a candidate and as a future Finance Minister, I am still an explicitly independent candidate.
I welcome the endorsement of any other party or parties, or members thereof, that think I would be the best choice for Benito and the Senate, and welcome their questions to help them correctly determine I am indeed that best choice.
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Post by Eðo Grischun on May 29, 2012 21:05:33 GMT -6
To make sure everyone's doubly clear:
The CSPP recognise the independent and non-partisan nature of candidate Perþonest's campaign and want everyone to know that our parties endorsement is only there because we think he's the man for the job. We simply want to encourage Progressive voters in Benito to vote Perþonest!
His recommendation for MinFin is due, again not to party politics, but to the fact that we think he is the perfect man to deal with our plans for finance, merchandise, stamps and coins. (I might add that a CSP cabinet would be cross-partisan, with ministers from all parties.)
Vote Perþonest for Benito Senate. Vote CSPP!
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on May 31, 2012 0:00:43 GMT -6
Some things are just obviously right.
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Owen Edwards
Puisne Justice
Posts: 1,400
Talossan Since: 12-8-2007
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Post by Owen Edwards on Jun 1, 2012 7:49:19 GMT -6
I think the Pertgonest Plan and Istefan's obvious ability to see stuff like stamps and coins to completion show a lot of why he would make a great Senator for Benito - he's thoughtful, easy to contact, and good at getting the job done.
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Jun 8, 2012 1:07:56 GMT -6
Something has come to my attention that's disturbing me.
My opponent, Iason Taiwos, has published a PM that claims he's the underdog. So I thought I'd point out that he's the RUMP candidate. That automatically makes me the underdog. Further, of course, the poll Glüc da Dhi is running shows that Taiwos has a two-to-one advantage among Benitans polled, which also makes me the underdog.
Please, people of Benito, remember that I'm the real underdog. And the campaign will make a much better story if the underdog wins.
PERÞONEST! In his heart, you know he's a got a Þ!
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Lüc da Schir
Senator for Benito
If Italy wins a Six Nations match I will join the Zouaves
Posts: 4,125
Talossan Since: 3-21-2012
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Post by Lüc da Schir on Jun 8, 2012 7:11:47 GMT -6
I voted for you in Gluc's poll.
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Post by Vitxalmour Conductour on Jun 8, 2012 10:00:33 GMT -6
Something has come to my attention that's disturbing me. My opponent, Iason Taiwos, has published a PM that claims he's the underdog. So I thought I'd point out that he's the RUMP candidate. That automatically makes me the underdog. Further, of course, the poll Glüc da Dhi is running shows that Taiwos has a two-to-one advantage among Benitans polled, which also makes me the underdog. Please, people of Benito, remember that I'm the real underdog. And the campaign will make a much better story if the underdog wins. PERÞONEST! In his heart, you know he's a got a Þ! As the author of his quoted PM, I'd like to say that it was originally written over a month ago when the facts it contained were all I knew of the difference between the two of you, qualifications-wise. A month has gone by. On every subject I recall you both making comments on (Which I believe is just the one, about micronation citizenship), you have made remarkably similar statements. There has been nothing to really differentiate you policy-wise. That really leaves the choice down to party endorements and individual estimation of the candidate. Perhaps Iason has a an advantage with his endorsement, but those endorsements are a poor reson to vote for a Senator. I still believe you have the lead in individual estimation, as you are established here. People know who you are, know what you are capable of. People have seen the great results that come from an involved fan Perþonest. So I maintain that Taiwos is still the underdog, a marginal lead on an informal poll notwithstanding. I also add, that at this point, I can safely say that whichever of you wins, Benito wins.
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Lüc da Schir
Senator for Benito
If Italy wins a Six Nations match I will join the Zouaves
Posts: 4,125
Talossan Since: 3-21-2012
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Post by Lüc da Schir on Jun 8, 2012 10:18:31 GMT -6
It'll be a great election!
I think I'll vote the 13th of July - just to say that I haven't already decided.
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