Hooligan
Squirrel King of Arms; Cunstaval to Maricopa
Posts: 7,325
Talossan Since: 7-12-2005
Motto: PRIMA CAPIAM POCULA
Baron Since: 11-20-2005
Count Since: 9-8-2012
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Post by Hooligan on Sept 30, 2008 13:34:53 GMT -6
The Prime Ministry, seeing as how the Foreign Minister is inactive, has a stock response to inquiries like this (which it receives all the time). If the good Ambassador could forward the original message to me, I will see to it that this organisation receives the official response of His Majesty's government.
Hooligan
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Jan 1, 2009 5:20:27 GMT -6
Are you not now also breaking the Semi-Permeable Wall Act by answering to this micronation?!The Prime Ministry, seeing as how the Foreign Minister is inactive, has a stock response to inquiries like this (which it receives all the time). If the good Ambassador could forward the original message to me, I will see to it that this organisation receives the official response of His Majesty's government. Hooligan
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Post by Davíu Pol Siervicül on Jan 2, 2009 13:59:14 GMT -6
Do you spend ALL of your time looking for things to complain about? The post you quote is over 3 months old.
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Flip Molinar
Talossan since 1-1-2008
Proud Talossan
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Post by Flip Molinar on Jan 2, 2009 20:32:32 GMT -6
Do you spend ALL of your time looking for things to complain about? The post you quote is over 3 months old. I must agree there. Why can't you focus on doing positive things?
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Jan 4, 2009 9:37:13 GMT -6
Barring further word from government counsel or the Seneschal, our official position is that being contacted by a micronation in any way is not a violation of the Semi-Permeable Wall Act. Nor is any reasonable response to a micronation a violation, as long as that response does not invite further interaction or entanglement. And naturally, people may carry on whatever private conversations they choose.
To be clear: the idea is that public officials of Talossa are not to endorse, collude, or encourage micronations in an official way. Enforcement of that standard is the goal of the government, in adherence to the law. It is absurd to suggest that being contacted by a micronation and politely responding in the negative is in some way a violation of either the spirit or the letter of the law.
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Jan 4, 2009 14:35:47 GMT -6
Seeing that I am being accused of breaking the law in regards to the semi permeable act, which I just found out - is the reason why this post took so long to enter... And no I do not spend all my time looking for things to complain about. What have I complained about that you are so frustrated with? I have simply tried to find out what I am criminally being accused of! If you would be accused of a crime, wouldn't you also like to know what crime that is?! For example you receive a PM saying, your are "Fired for cause" "you will be faced with criminal charges" - and that's all you hear, would you just sit back, and not want to know what you are being charged with? Do you spend ALL of your time looking for things to complain about? The post you quote is over 3 months old.
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Post by Davíu Pol Siervicül on Jan 4, 2009 23:05:24 GMT -6
I have simply tried to find out what I am criminally being accused of! If you would be accused of a crime, wouldn't you also like to know what crime that is?! Yes, I would, as most would, I assume. But I don't believe the are ANY charges as of yet. would you just sit back, and not want to know what you are being charged with? Had you been 'sitting back' NO ONE would of had a ill word to say of you, with the possible exception of the PM. However you have not sat patiently, you have stomped you feet and made a pain of yourself to all. Well the 'meat' of the charges (if there ever are any) has been publicly disclosed. Are you now satisfied?
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Jan 5, 2009 5:44:22 GMT -6
I am glad that the charges, although only one charge has been made public, and the whole event is public, since it is important in a democracy - not to keep things hidden from the people. Don't you agree? And that is what the DPD party also stands for. Kind regards, Tony Weckström President of the DPD Ex-Royal Ambassador I have simply tried to find out what I am criminally being accused of! If you would be accused of a crime, wouldn't you also like to know what crime that is?! Yes, I would, as most would, I assume. But I don't believe the are ANY charges as of yet. would you just sit back, and not want to know what you are being charged with? Had you been 'sitting back' NO ONE would of had a ill word to say of you, with the possible exception of the PM. However you have not sat patiently, you have stomped you feet and made a pain of yourself to all. Well the 'meat' of the charges (if there ever are any) has been publicly disclosed. Are you now satisfied?
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Jan 5, 2009 6:24:48 GMT -6
Okay... this is SO the last time I'm saying this.
Tony- No charges have been brought against you, so you have not been told of any charges. It's really not that hard. Similarly, if the police suspected me of a crime in the US, they would not tell me that they suspected me--they would use this time to gather evidence against me, THEN, charge me with a crime and arrest me.
Dréu
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Jan 5, 2009 6:36:03 GMT -6
As seen below, I have been informed that I am accused of breaking the law "The semi-permeable act". SO I HAVE BEEN TOLD OF CHARGES!!! Kind regards, Tony WeckströmPresident of the DPD Ex-Royal Ambassador The former Ambassador was informed in private about his dismissal. This was done with respect for his previous efforts in office, so as not to make a public display of the matter. The government has nothing but gratitude for those Talossans who serve their country in an administrative office, and will always try to accord such courtesy to officials whenever possible. MC Wekstrom, however, has very publicly demanded that we announce the reasons for his dismissal, and given his persistence, the office of the Seneschal feels that it must oblige in the interests of open government and transparent service to the people. Clearly has has waived whatever right to privacy and has certainly burnt the remnants of our willing courtesy. MC Wekstrom was removed based on the belief that he has violated Talossan statute 25RZ50, "The Semi-Permeable Wall Act," as well as five or six other laws with whose violation he has not yet been formally charged. For obvious reasons, we cannot discuss the evidence or specific items that gave us this belief, since a criminal case is pending once the Cort accepts the charges. If the Cort decides not to accept the charges or once the case is completed, if MC Wekstrom still desires he will have the wherewithal and evidence to publicly declare such matters for himself and make the documentation available. If he decides he no longer wishes to take that route but the citizenry demands it, the office of the Seneschal will confer with counsel as to the best course of action. Okay... this is SO the last time I'm saying this. Tony- No charges have been brought against you, so you have not been told of any charges. It's really not that hard. Similarly, if the police suspected me of a crime in the US, they would not tell me that they suspected me--they would use this time to gather evidence against me, THEN, charge me with a crime and arrest me. Dréu
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
Capitán of the Zouaves
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Jan 5, 2009 9:42:03 GMT -6
Would you please take further discussion of this matter elsewhere? This area is for the Ziu, specifically :
"The official meeting-rooms of the Senäts and Cosa, where members of those august bodies decorously and pompously advise the King regarding the good government of his realms."
This is an issue of a citizen and potential legal matters.
I would appreciate it if you keep the discussions on this board on topic.
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