The This Ain't it, Chief Act

[Lüc da Schir]

WHEREAS, the proper, Organic title of the uppermost Justice of the Uppermost Court is "Senior Justice"; and

WHEREAS, this is a nice peculiarity that sets us aside from the differently-named position in our Big Neighbor's judiciary; and

WHEREAS, I have said in the past that this difference is not just philosophical, as the two positions are filled differently; and also:

WHEREAS, the present Senior Justice has an illegal wig; and also:

WHEREAS, incidentally, the present system of shipping items of rank through the King might be unwieldy if, for instance, both the former and the new incumbent live in Europe; so

THEREFORE, El Lexhatx F.39 is amended to read:

39. The office of Seneschal, Secretary of State, and Senior Justice shall be symbolized by totem items of rank. These items will be provided as speedily as possible by the government, with care for their quality and the economics of the matter. Designs and the nature of the items are the responsibility of the government, through whatever channels it deems appropriate. (38RZ3)(48RZ19)

39.1. The Seneschal shall wear a chain of office of sufficient ostentation as befits the leader of Talossa, representing the burden of being shackled to the nation's welfare.

39.2. The Secretary of State shall wield a stamp embossed with the logo of his office, being both an effective and appropriate totem that can be used henceforth.

39.3. The Senior Justice shall bear a silver-haired wig of reasonable quality, indicating a traditional role as a judge and the flowing locks of Lady Justice herself.

39.4. Each bearer of these items shall be required, if they lose their office, to mail them to the King within two weeks, from whom the items shall be passed on to the next holder of the office. Should the next holder of the office be known within two weeks, the former incumbent may contact the King and the new incumbent to arrange for the direct shipment of the item to the new incumbent, if the King so authorizes.

Ureu q'estadra sa,

Lüc da Schir (Senator-BE)

[Sir Alexandreu Davinescu]

This is a personal attack on me and I demand this senator be arrested.

[Magniloqueu Épiqeu da Lhiun]

Sadly, no one can arrest since the Zuavs do not do that anymore. I don't think Talossa has citizen's arrest laws, does it?

[Lüc da Schir]

Feb 13, 2020 10:41:06 GMT -6 Magniloqueu Épiqeu da Lhiun said:

Sadly, no one can arrest since the Zuavs do not do that anymore.

The irony!

[Sir Alexandreu Davinescu]

Hoisted on my own petard.

[Açafat del Val]

A question as the fresh blood in the Ziu: do folks have these tokens in their actual possession, and do they truly actually mail them off to their successors? I'm just imagining a shipment all the way to New Zealand for the Seneschal and how costly that would get if it then had to be shipped to Italy.

[Lüc da Schir]

We don't have a wig, although the current Senior Justice does have a personal one, and I don't know about a SoS stamp, but somehow I'm sure I've seen a picture of one long ago.

We do have a Chain of Office since about a year, and I'm damn proud to have been the only MZ to vote against that waste of money. I assume it has been handed over to Miestrâ but I don't think we've seen any evidence of that.

We had another Chain of office which was actually only in use for one Seneschal and was made (and lost) in 2013.

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

Feb 16, 2020 13:20:53 GMT -6 Lüc da Schir said:

We do have a Chain of Office since about a year, and I'm damn proud to have been the only MZ to vote against that waste of money. I assume it has been handed over to Miestrâ.

Funny story - apparently it's still at Ian Plätschisch's parents' house and the stars have never aligned for it to be mailed to New Zealand.

I would honestly prefer that the law be changed to swap the Chain of Office to the King in return for the Sash of the Republic, which would be much easier to mail whenever the office changes hands.

[Ian Plätschisch]

Feb 16, 2020 16:30:46 GMT -6 Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN said:

Feb 16, 2020 13:20:53 GMT -6 Lüc da Schir said:

We do have a Chain of Office since about a year, and I'm damn proud to have been the only MZ to vote against that waste of money. I assume it has been handed over to Miestrâ.

Funny story - apparently it's still at Ian Plätschisch's parents' house and the stars have never aligned for it to be mailed to New Zealand.

I would honestly prefer that the law be changed to swap the Chain of Office to the King in return for the Sash of the Republic, which would be much easier to mail whenever the office changes hands.

I’ve in fact had it with me at college since October: Dien never told me how to ship it.

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

At the risk of sounding stupid or callous; how much more complicated is it than "put it in a box then put the box in the mail"?

[Munditenens Tresplet]

Feb 16, 2020 16:44:17 GMT -6 Ian Plätschisch said:

Feb 16, 2020 16:30:46 GMT -6 Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN said:

Funny story - apparently it's still at Ian Plätschisch's parents' house and the stars have never aligned for it to be mailed to New Zealand.

I would honestly prefer that the law be changed to swap the Chain of Office to the King in return for the Sash of the Republic, which would be much easier to mail whenever the office changes hands.

I’ve in fact had it with me at college since October: Dien never told me how to ship it.

I had, in fact, on multiple occasions attempted to arrange shipment. I got multiple quotes and found the cheapest option, and then included that price in the budget while I was finance minister. I told you which box to put it in (a flat rate box), and offered to assist with any customs forms. Alternatively, I offered for you to ship it to me and in turn I would send it on to New Zealand. I thought you were going to pick it up from your parents' house at one point, then contacted you afterwards and found out that you hadn't. And as the final few weeks of the last administration unfolded, the idea turned to perhaps having the chain be shipped to the King with the sash sent to New Zealand.

At this point is when I dropped off the map, sure, but this isn't on me at all. I don't necessarily appreciate being attacked smeared in absentia.

[Lüc da Schir]

Apparently this is the moment when I get to yell "Told ya!".

[Eðo Grischun]

Feb 16, 2020 13:20:53 GMT -6 Lüc da Schir said:

and I don't know about a SoS stamp, but somehow I'm sure I've seen a picture of one long ago.

I remember the Chancery stamp. Pretty sure the thing will be collecting dust in a bedroom in Texas.

[Ian Plätschisch]

Feb 16, 2020 20:21:05 GMT -6 Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN said:

At the risk of sounding stupid or callous; how much more complicated is it than "put it in a box then put the box in the mail"?

A lot more complicated than that.

Sorry Dien for making it sound like you did less work than you did. We were in fact making preparations to send it to New Zealand. However, then I was told maybe we should give it to the King instead and never heard anything definite.