54th Cosâ Programme For Government

[Gödafrïeu Válcadác’h]

Dec 18, 2019 23:18:17 GMT -6 Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN said:

Dec 18, 2019 22:19:12 GMT -6 Sir Alexandreu Davinescu said:

the worsening conditions around here

Get off this hobby horse, Sir Alex, things have improved out of sight since the new coalition has taken power. People are coming out of the woodwork who haven't been seen for ages to post on New Witt, and that's just the start.

An end to the hereditary monarchy, a new Witt, and new populous-excitement for Christmas? You shouldn't have!

[Ian Plätschisch]

I too have gotten in some real donnybrooks with V, but I’ve also seen how quickly he can shift into level headed walls of legal analysis.

I think he respects the Cort enough to fulfill his promise to me to get past his hotheadedness. Indeed, far from unconscionable, it is likely the best opportunity to put V under a code of conduct he really cares about.

[Eðo Grischun]

Dec 18, 2019 22:19:12 GMT -6 Sir Alexandreu Davinescu said:

the worsening conditions around here

A fully functioning and highly active Cabinet. A team that is gelling well and is going to work extremely well together.

Wittenberg migration carried out.

Immigration cock-ups under control plus new systems put in place to make the process smoother.

Multiple plans for the Nation's 40th anniversary celebrations about to be revealed.

The most talent filled Ziu I think we've seen in years.

A full legislative programme unveiled.

Budget under construction.

Alleged criminal act discovered, handled and dealt with swiftly.

And if you look close enough you can see the start of a cultural renaissance starting up in areas.

As I read recently in someone's signature... "The Era of Apathy is Over". Believe it.

Ain't no worsening conditions happening. Things are beginning to improve and the session hasn't even begun yet.

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

AD's not a politician anymore, but I think he's gotten so used to saying "Talossa is rapidly going down the tubes, people better start following my suggestions before it's too late". It's too useful a rhetorical cudgel to give up just because, well, things are going well.

[Sir Alexandreu Davinescu]

While I'm happy the Government has such a united front and there are some burgeoning projects (including my own!), are you guys serious? Do you literally not remember the results of the most recent election? Turnout plunged again - 14% since last election. And that last election was, in turn, down 18% from the year before. But whatever. Don't change the subject. Why would being removed from accountability be likely to make V behave like a decent person? It doesn't even make any sense! He couldn't keep it together while under supervision and with threatened consequences, so the argument is that giving him more power, no supervision, and no consequences is going to make him be responsible?

[Eðo Grischun]

Dec 18, 2019 22:07:20 GMT -6 Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN said:

Listen to this carefully, a Scotsman told you this, they're the experts on creative cussing.

You have no idea how hard it is to contain it.

BTW, I completely understand V's "New York" argument/explanation for his ways (even if he can be a bit of a radge roaster at times).

There's a handful of places in the world where extreme profanity, slinging insults and general slagging is just part of the everyday language. New York and Glasgow are two of them. I understand his hotheadedness (even if it makes him come across as a fuckin' walloper) and I get that there's very, very little malice behind his apparently cruel words. This is probably highly difficult to understand for people coming from backgrounds where curse words and/or mean tempers were of the devil or some such. I agree with him when he makes the argument that "Passive aggressive dicksihness dressed as Victorian language is worse than plain speaking and just saying it how it is" (I paraphrase. Got nae time to go look up the actual quotes of an actual rocket of a man).

A lot of the arguments that I've had with V (that total bell end of a fud) have gotten so heated because we both come from places where we don't shy away from inserting profanity and insults as a matter of course. I'd also say it's the reason behind how we have both managed to have those arguments and ended up respecting each other in the end.

I have a hell of a lot more respect for V and his way of just laying it all out for everybody to see than I do for anybody taking a fannybaws approach to things.

(Insults inserted for effect. No offence intended. V is an alright c**t.)



Bonus round since he's made the news. Happy to see today's headlines on Donald Trump's impeachment. Haa! Get it roon' ye! Ya wee huffy, bawbag eyed fuckbumper, ye. The guy is an absolute weapon.

[Eðo Grischun]

Dec 19, 2019 5:58:53 GMT -6 Sir Alexandreu Davinescu said:

While I'm happy the Government has such a united front and there are some burgeoning projects (including my own!), are you guys serious? Do you literally not remember the results of the most recent election? Turnout plunged again - 14% since last election. And that last election was, in turn, down 18% from the year before. But whatever. Don't change the subject. Why would being removed from accountability be likely to make V behave like a decent person? It doesn't even make any sense! He couldn't keep it together while under supervision and with threatened consequences, so the argument is that giving him more power, no supervision, and no consequences is going to make him be responsible?

We've already answered your question.

1) V is qualified for the position (actually qualified).
2) We believe that he has a level of respect for the judiciary that will inhibit him from breaking decorum within the court. (For V to lose his temper in court would be like a Catholic going postal in a chapel).

Have a good look through his post history. You will see that 'law mode V' is very different to 'citizen V'. For whatever reason, when he gets into that head space he becomes restrained and professional. His walls of legal text are always dry, boring, verbose and devoid of vitriol.

[Sir Alexandreu Davinescu]

That's actually a good point, well-made. Fair enough.

I believe this to be a serious mistake, but I'll let it go for now.

[Açafat del Val]

Dec 19, 2019 0:19:18 GMT -6 Eðo Grischun said:

Dec 18, 2019 22:19:12 GMT -6 Sir Alexandreu Davinescu said:

the worsening conditions around here

A fully functioning and highly active Cabinet. A team that is gelling well and is going to work extremely well together.

Wittenberg migration carried out.

Immigration cock-ups under control plus new systems put in place to make the process smoother.

Multiple plans for the Nation's 40th anniversary celebrations about to be revealed.

The most talent filled Ziu I think we've seen in years.

A full legislative programme unveiled.

Budget under construction.

Alleged criminal act discovered, handled and dealt with swiftly.

And if you look close enough you can see the start of a cultural renaissance starting up in areas.

As I read recently in someone's signature... "The Era of Apathy is Over". Believe it.

Ain't no worsening conditions happening. Things are beginning to improve and the session hasn't even begun yet.

HEAR, HEAR!

[Viteu Marcianüs]

I began writing and realize my post was too long, so here is a condensed version: FWIW - Alex is absolutely correct to raise the concerns he's raising. I also appreciate those who are supporting my potential nomination. Etho hits the nail on the head with his analogy, and it's something about myself of which I am self-aware and can attempt to explain upon request. But I am going to restrain myself because many of these issues should/may come up when I am officially nominated, and I would rather explain them at that juncture.

I do want to point out that the Ziu can remove a justice, and certainly has, for behavior it has found to tarnish the reputation of the court and unbecoming of a justice. So I do not think it would tolerate a justice acting in the manner that gives rise to Alex's concerns. I will point out that I continue t support the prior initiatives to set term-limits (with renewals) for UC Justices, and to slightly relax the strict separation of powers to allow the Ziu to set ethical rules on UC Justices.

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

Dec 19, 2019 9:38:51 GMT -6 Eðo Grischun said:

(Insults inserted for effect. No offence intended. V is an alright c**t.)

Scots are like Australians, good c**t is a high compliment across the Tasman.

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

Dec 19, 2019 12:03:18 GMT -6 Viteu Marcianüs said:

I do want to point out that the Ziu can remove a justice, and certainly has, for behavior it has found to tarnish the reputation of the court and unbecoming of a justice.

A good point; it would be ironic that the impeachment of BenArd, which AD opposed, has set a precedent that should actually reassure him at this point.

[Iason Bitxichë Taiwos]

Dec 18, 2019 19:19:30 GMT -6 Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN said:

I wonder what I did to get deposed. All I can remember is that s:reu Taiwos quit the Free Democrats when I refused to "shoot down" Þon Txoteu É. Davinescu's plans for the Navy.

I never requested you to shoot down his plans for the Navy. In fact, I encouraged him when he made a bill about the Navy, and tried to get others to take a look at it to help him with it. When you announced in the FreeDems group that he was going to be handling Navy stuff, I jokingly said something like, "Oh, not that guy, he's too serious for the Talossan Navy." Then you said something like "I don't have time for people who just want fun and silliness and aren't prepared to work." Which, admittedly, pissed me off a little. I kept thinking, what work? We don't have a Navy, except on paper. What exactly do I need to be working on for a Navy that doesn't exist? I became Admiral with tongue in cheek, hence my ridiculous recruitment posters. I didn't care if Davis handled that other stuff.

[Lüc da Schir]

Dec 18, 2019 21:18:39 GMT -6 Viteu Marcianüs said:

I look forward to a thorough vetting process.

I for all hope that my colleagues in the Senate will concur with me that the best way to honour a colleague such as V, who is leaving to sit on the highest court of the land, is to provide him with a full opportunity to sustain his own candidacy in a hearing - and not certainly to rush this nomination through in January, in which case I'm afraid I couldn't contemplate voting to confirm, regardless of how high my opinion of V as a legal scholar is.

[Colonel Mximo Carbonèl]

Azul,

We still think that a President elected by the Ziu for a term shall be our national head of state for ceremonial purpose.

No more king...


Mximo Carbonel