53rd Cosa, 2nd Clark - June 2019 - Results

[Glüc da Dhi]

Summary

53th Cosâ, Clark #2 results		Amendment?	Ziu	Cosâ				Senäts
Bill	Title		Result	Për	Contrâ	Abstain	Result	Për	Contrâ	Abstain	Result
RZ10	The Leader of the Opposition (Restoration) Bill	No (double majority needed)	Pass	149	38	0	Pass	6	1	0	Pass
RZ11	The Holidays and Observances Amendment Act	No (double majority needed)	Pass	177	10	0	Pass	5	1	1	Pass
RZ12	Budget for the 53rd Cosa	No (double majority needed)	Pass	187	0	0	Pass	6	1	0	Pass
RZ13	The Slimming Down Title I Act	No (double majority needed)	Pass	177	10	0	Pass	5	2	0	Pass
RZ14	Still Into This Amendment	Yes (2/3 Cosa needed, 2/3 Senäts)	Pass	129	10	48	Pass	5	2	0	Pass
RZ15	The Linear Terps Act	No (double majority needed)	Pass	121	10	56	Pass	4	2	1	Pass
RZ16	The Talossa is Not Wittenberg Act	No (double majority needed)	Fail	75	76	36	Fail	2	5	0	Fail
VOC	Vote of Confidence		Pass	149	38	N/A	Pass

Cosâ Member Votes

#	Name	Province	Party	Seats	RZ10	RZ11	RZ12	RZ13	RZ14	RZ15	RZ16	VOC
182	Alexandreu Davinescu	Maritiimi-Maxhestic	RUMP	8	Contrâ	Për	Për	Për	Abstain	Për	Për	No
317	Béneditsch Ardpresteir	Maricopa	RUMP	10	Contrâ	Për	Për	Për	Abstain	Për	Për	No
256	C. Carlüs Xheraltescù	Fiova	FREEDEMS	16	Për	Për	Për	Për	Për	Për	Contrâ	Yes
519	Cresti da Ion Nouacastra-Läxhirescu	Maritiimi-Maxhestic	AMP	13	Për	Për	Për	Për	Për	Për	Për	Yes
330	Eiric Börnatfiglheu	Benito	FREEDEMS	17	Për	Për	Për	Për	Për	Për	Për	Yes
254	Éovart Grischun	Vuode	RUMP	10	Contrâ	Për	Për	Për	Contrâ	Për	Contrâ	No
282	Eovart Xhorxh	Maricopa	RUMP	10	Contrâ	Contrâ	Për	Contrâ	Abstain	Contrâ	Contrâ	No
412	Erschéveþ (Ely) da Schir	Benito	MODRADS	20	Për	Për	Për	Për	Për	Abstain	Contrâ	Yes
538	Gödafrïeu Airignha	Vuode	MODRADS	3	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
174	Ián da Bitoûr	Cézembre	RUMP	10	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
493	Jordan Placie	Maritiimi-Maxhestic	AMP	13	Për	Për	Për	Për	Për	Për	Për	Yes
101	Martì-Paír Furxhéir	Atatûrk	FREEDEMS	16	Për	Për	Për	Për	Për	Abstain	Abstain	Yes
114	Miestrâ Schivâ	Fiova	FREEDEMS	20	Për	Për	Për	Për	Për	Abstain	Abstain	Yes
315	Munditenens (Dien) Tresplet	Maricopa	FREEDEMS	20	Për	Për	Për	Për	Abstain	Për	Contrâ	Yes
494	Þon Txoteu É. Davinescu	Maricopa	AMP	14	Për	Për	Për	Për	Për	Për	Për	Yes

Number of Cosâ Members : 15

Senator Votes

Province	#	Name	RZ10	RZ11	RZ12	RZ13	RZ14	RZ15	RZ16
Atatûrk	432	Sevastáin Pinátsch	Për	Për	Për	Për	Për	Contrâ	Contrâ
Cézembre	527	Thor Deyaert	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Florencià	63	Ieremiac'h Ventrutx	Contrâ	Contrâ	Contrâ	Contrâ	Contrâ	Contrâ	Contrâ
Maricopa	140	Cresti Matáiwos Siervicül	Për	Abstain	Për	Contrâ	Contrâ	Për	Contrâ
Maritiimi-Maxhestic	466	Ian Plätschisch	Për	Për	Për	Për	Për	Për	Për
Benito	328	Lüc da Schir	Për	Për	Për	Për	Për	Abstain	Contrâ
Vuode	187	Viteu Marcianüs	Për	Për	Për	Për	Për	Për	Contrâ
Fiova	96	Gödafrïeu Válcadác'h	Për	Për	Për	Për	Për	Për	Për

The following members did not vote and risk losing their seats if they miss the next vote:
Ian da Bitour (MC, RUMP)
Thor Deyaert (Senator, Cézembre)

The following members did not vote for the second consecutive time and have vacated their seats:
Gödafrïeu Airignha (MC, MODRADS)

[King John]

With respect to 53RZ10, The Leader of the Opposition (Restoration) Bill:

El Regeu en volt.

— John R


With respect to 53RZ11, The Holidays and Observances Amendment Act, I still believe the Bill to be inOrganic, and would veto it again if I could. We're in the process of working this out in Cort.


With respect to 53RZ12, the Budget for the 53rd Cosa:

El Regeu en volt.

— John R


With respect to 53RZ13, The Slimming Down Title I Act:

This strikes me as entirely unnecessary, and rather small-minded. Are we trying to eliminate all the amusing and whimsical bits of our Talossan heritage? People had fun writing these laws, and they do absolutely no harm. They serve as a reminder that we're trying to *HAVE FUN* with our imitation of larger nations. I would urge the Ziu to rethink this measure.

Ça el Regeu non piaça.


With respect to 53RZ14, the Still Into This Amendment:

I would strongly urge that a smallish change be made in this one before we vote on it. The right order in which to accomplish this is FIRST to pass the legislation required for the new Constitution to work the way we want it to (subject of course to passage of the Constitution), and THEN to have the Constitution go into effect only on the Ziu's certification that the underlying required legislation is complete. If we do it backwards, as written, especially if we do it backwards with a deadline that we might not be able to meet, we're quite likely, in one year, to be in a situation where parts of our fundamental governing system don't work because of oversights or failures in necessary legislation. Please, revise this one!

Ça el Regeu non piaça.


With respect to 53RZ15, The Linear Terps Act:

El Regeu en volt.

— John R

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

Sir, while Talossa has your attention, I would appreciate a reply to my email of 4th June, as reproduced here.

[Ian Plätschisch]

Jun 28, 2019 10:45:19 GMT -6 King John said:

With respect to 53RZ13, The Slimming Down Title I Act:

This strikes me as entirely unnecessary, and rather small-minded. Are we trying to eliminate all the amusing and whimsical bits of our Talossan heritage? People had fun writing these laws, and they do absolutely no harm. They serve as a reminder that we're trying to *HAVE FUN* with our imitation of larger nations. I would urge the Ziu to rethink this measure.

Ça el Regeu non piaça.

No, the law will not "eliminate" anything about the Navy. Instead, it will shift the power to make decisions about the Navy to the people who are the most involved with it. Sure, someone might get a chuckle from reading Title I, but almost none of the provisions are currently used. All it does is sit there preempting people who might have a better idea, forcing them to go through the Ziu if they want to make any change. I explained this in the introduction to the bill. Whimsy and fun are great and will continue, rest assured.

With respect to 53RZ14, the Still Into This Amendment:



I would strongly urge that a smallish change be made in this one before we vote on it. The right order in which to accomplish this is FIRST to pass the legislation required for the new Constitution to work the way we want it to (subject of course to passage of the Constitution), and THEN to have the Constitution go into effect only on the Ziu's certification that the underlying required legislation is complete. If we do it backwards, as written, especially if we do it backwards with a deadline that we might not be able to meet, we're quite likely, in one year, to be in a situation where parts of our fundamental governing system don't work because of oversights or failures in necessary legislation. Please, revise this one!



Ça el Regeu non piaça.

The necessary changes to el Lexhatx are almost entirely perfunctory and unlikely to attract opposition. I am also sure that, were the amendment to pass, I would have no trouble writing them. Heck, I wrote the amendment and accompanying guide almost entirely myself in the space of two months, back when I had two fewer years of Talossan experience, and that was the hard part. That said, I don't want to put in the time to write the changes until I am sure the amendment will pass.

Needless to say I will be proposing both of these again for July.

[Gödafrïeu Válcadác’h]

John, you are not doing your job as Monarch.

You had a very long time to voice your concerns with n the Hopper. Yet you wait until the last possible day to issue not one veto, but two.

Really?

[King John]

Dame Miestra,

I've searched, and am pretty sure I did not receive the email you reference. May I ask what email address you sent it to?

— John R