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Post by Thor Deyaert on Apr 18, 2019 15:02:22 GMT -6
Nobody registered as candidate for the Sénéchal elections in time for the deadline. Now we have a few options to decide on what to do next: - Extend the deadline for registering. - Make a temporary arrangement untill a suitable candidate is found. - Make ruling to decide on what to do if there are no candidates. This can be the basis for permanent ruling if this is something the L'états wants. My personal choice is the latter. If we would extend the deadline for registering, we still can have the same situation on our hand. Besides, a week time is plenty for somebody to make up their mind on wether they want to be Sénéchal or not, so extending the deadline wouldn't really be a solution. Between the last two options, the last one is better long term. If we have the same problem in the future, we will have procedure to rely on. My suggestion is as follows then: If no candidate can be found for the position of Sénéchal, the current Sénéchal will continue for one more term, but with limited powers as he/she doesn't technically have a mandate for a extra term. Here I was thinking about the proclamations the Sénéchal can dictate (when co-signed by the Governor-General). An acting Sénéchal would only be responsible for the daily business of running the province: the Cézembre administrative guide, conducting votes in the L'états, etc. Alternatively, an acting Sénéchal could have full powers, if we find a way to see if he/she has the confidence of the citizens of Cézembre. For example, by a vote of confidence by the L'états. What does the rest of the L'états think about this proposal and my suggestions? Ián Tamorán S.H., Sir X. Pol Briga, Alèx Soleighlfred, Amada Merþedes, Dame Litz Cjantscheir, UrN
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Amada Merþedes
Citizen of Talossa
Dead-Talossan-Name: Alexandreu Regeu
Posts: 249
Talossan Since: 26th of March, 2019
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Post by Amada Merþedes on Apr 19, 2019 8:34:38 GMT -6
I'm sorry I didn't reply in time. I have been very busy over the pat week however I would like to be Senechal for Cezembre. Is this still possible?
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Post by Thor Deyaert on Apr 19, 2019 8:51:12 GMT -6
I'm sorry I didn't reply in time. I have been very busy over the pat week however I would like to be Senechal for Cezembre. Is this still possible? If the L'états agrees to this, we can have an extension of the registration deadline after wich we can let the elections happen. What does the rest think?
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Post by Alèx Soleighlfred on Apr 19, 2019 9:47:16 GMT -6
I think this is a good idea. Business in Talossa is rarely fast and on time, so we should be happy there's a person interested in the office.
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Dame Litz Cjantscheir, UrN
Puisne Justice; Chancellor of the Royal Talossan Bar; Cunstaval to Florencia
Dame & Former Seneschal
Posts: 1,157
Talossan Since: 4-5-2010
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
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Post by Dame Litz Cjantscheir, UrN on Apr 19, 2019 10:48:13 GMT -6
I'm sorry I didn't reply in time. I have been very busy over the pat week however I would like to be Senechal for Cezembre. Is this still possible? If the L'états agrees to this, we can have an extension of the registration deadline after wich we can let the elections happen. What does the rest think? I object. I don't think L'Etats de Cézembre has the power to extend or otherwise alter the deadline outlined in our Constitution, namely Article 14. If there is a basis that the Lord Warden believes this House can extend the deadline. Then, please can he advise L'Etats de Cézembre of same. For now the incumbent continues in the Office of Le Sénéchal, given the constitutional deadline has passed. Any election for Le Sénéchal which includes late candidates would, in my opinion, be unlawful. The options available to us now are to allow the incumbent to continue in office or pass a resolution by a majority of the L'Etats de Cézembre removing the incumbent Sénéchal, which in itself will trigger new elections. -- Dame Litz Cjantscheir, UrN
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Post by Thor Deyaert on Apr 19, 2019 11:07:35 GMT -6
Article 14 doesn't specify what should happen if there is no candidate. As far as I am aware, it is nowhere specified in the constitution, that is why I asked the opinion of the L'états. As incumbent Sénéchal, I would be open to extending my term, but I would also like to give new blood a chance to do good for the province. So if it is okay for the L'états, you can trigger new elections by voting me out of office if you like. It is also better to split the officzs of Sénéchal and Lord Warden anyway.
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Dame Litz Cjantscheir, UrN
Puisne Justice; Chancellor of the Royal Talossan Bar; Cunstaval to Florencia
Dame & Former Seneschal
Posts: 1,157
Talossan Since: 4-5-2010
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
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Post by Dame Litz Cjantscheir, UrN on Apr 19, 2019 11:27:10 GMT -6
Article 14 doesn't specify what should happen if there is no candidate. As far as I am aware, it is nowhere specified in the constitution, that is why I asked the opinion of the L'états. As incumbent Sénéchal, I would be open to extending my term, but I would also like to give new blood a chance to do good for the province. So if it is okay for the L'états, you can trigger new elections by voting me out of office if you like. It is also better to split the officzs of Sénéchal and Lord Warden anyway. No it doesn't, however it does state that: Firstly, a registration deadline extension will extend the election to more than 3 weeks and secondly, it is very clear candidates MUST announce their candidacy in the first week (which no one did). If there are no candidates then I imagine the status quo prevails and the incumbent continues in office. You could also formally resign from office, (given the election period has passed) which would also trigger a new election, without the need for a resolution of L'États.
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Post by Thor Deyaert on Apr 20, 2019 17:41:26 GMT -6
Then I hereby formally resign from my office of Sénéchal. If it pleases the L'états, I will still be conducting the elections. I suggest the registration deadline starts 21/4 at 12:00 CEST for clarity . The voting period will start 28/4 at 12:00 CEST and ends 12/5 at 11:59 CEST.
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Post by Thor Deyaert on Apr 20, 2019 17:42:54 GMT -6
I suggest also as member of the L'états then that we should clarify procedure in our constitution on what should happen in these situations, so that discussions like these will go smoother from now on.
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Amada Merþedes
Citizen of Talossa
Dead-Talossan-Name: Alexandreu Regeu
Posts: 249
Talossan Since: 26th of March, 2019
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Post by Amada Merþedes on Apr 21, 2019 2:16:12 GMT -6
So we now have a new election with another week of registration as candidate? If so I would like to register to become a candidate, and I agree that the law needs to be clarified.
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Post by Thor Deyaert on Apr 21, 2019 3:15:17 GMT -6
So we now have a new election with another week of registration as candidate? If so I would like to register to become a candidate, and I agree that the law needs to be clarified. I will make a new official thread soon. You should register there as well.
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