Universal Shield/Lozenge for All
Jul 18, 2018 15:32:34 GMT -6
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Post by Ián Tamorán S.H. on Jul 18, 2018 15:32:34 GMT -6
There has been some discussion, in another thread, about the Talossan use of a new shape of shield/lozenge which has no relationship to the holder's gender. We are, after all, a modern realm in which some old distinctions are no longer relevant.
I would suggest our offering a form similar to the following:

which is an "egg" shape, as used in Italian Heraldry.
The bearer of arms could make a choice, at any time, to choose either Escutcheon or Lozenge(Cartouche) or "Italian Ovoid" (is there a better name? Talossion?) upon which the arms are to be displayed.
Many official forms, these days, ask questions in the form of: Are you Male [ ], Female [ ], Other [ ], Prefer not to say [ ]?
I would suggest that we add the category "Not Relevant/None of your business! [ ]"
As an aside: if we consider this, we could adopt it as one part of our XL years celebration...
Quote from the other thread with this discussion:
I have suggested, some time ago, that we here in Talossa should use neither cartouche nor escutcheon, as the gender of a citaxhién is of no concern to us. In the world, Talossa is different: why cannot our armorial be different too?
I would suggest our (optionally) adopting a melange of the two shapes - a sort of escutcheon with very rounded corners / cartouche that's a bit asymmetrical, top to bottom - so that it is not clear whether it is a modified escutcheon or a modified cartouche. We could look at Gabriel Lamé's Superellipse, which is neither ellipse nor rectangle, but something between the both of them. With a bit of elegant mathematics I am sure that this august body could find such a shape - could we call it a Talossion? (For purposes of information, I personally hold an honours degree in mathematics, and would be most willing to help on this, were this initial suggestion adopted. I have graphic arts abilities, though, of as near zero as it's possible to get - so the elegance of any shape finally chosen cannot possibly be mine)
By "optionally", above, I mean that a citaxhién has a choice as to whether cartouche or escutcheon or Talossion be used.
Egg shapes:
There is even more than you need to know on page Mathematical Egg Curves
I would suggest our offering a form similar to the following:

which is an "egg" shape, as used in Italian Heraldry.
The bearer of arms could make a choice, at any time, to choose either Escutcheon or Lozenge(Cartouche) or "Italian Ovoid" (is there a better name? Talossion?) upon which the arms are to be displayed.
Many official forms, these days, ask questions in the form of: Are you Male [ ], Female [ ], Other [ ], Prefer not to say [ ]?
I would suggest that we add the category "Not Relevant/None of your business! [ ]"
As an aside: if we consider this, we could adopt it as one part of our XL years celebration...
Quote from the other thread with this discussion:
I have suggested, some time ago, that we here in Talossa should use neither cartouche nor escutcheon, as the gender of a citaxhién is of no concern to us. In the world, Talossa is different: why cannot our armorial be different too?
I would suggest our (optionally) adopting a melange of the two shapes - a sort of escutcheon with very rounded corners / cartouche that's a bit asymmetrical, top to bottom - so that it is not clear whether it is a modified escutcheon or a modified cartouche. We could look at Gabriel Lamé's Superellipse, which is neither ellipse nor rectangle, but something between the both of them. With a bit of elegant mathematics I am sure that this august body could find such a shape - could we call it a Talossion? (For purposes of information, I personally hold an honours degree in mathematics, and would be most willing to help on this, were this initial suggestion adopted. I have graphic arts abilities, though, of as near zero as it's possible to get - so the elegance of any shape finally chosen cannot possibly be mine)
By "optionally", above, I mean that a citaxhién has a choice as to whether cartouche or escutcheon or Talossion be used.
Egg shapes:
There is even more than you need to know on page Mathematical Egg Curves