Estats Xhenerais - States General - July 2018 Session

[Viteu Marcianüs]

A short while ago, the election for the 52nd Cosâ concluded, and while preliminary results are out, it could be a few days before Talossans know the final results. 

That said, the results for those seeking to declare a seat in the Estats Xehenerais are unequivocal: Éovart Grischun, Viteu Marcianüs (myself), and Chirbi Scherpa-Carriedo claimed their right to be seated and, as such, shall be seated in accordance with our Constitution.  

Upon the Grand Session convening, in performing our constitutional obligation, I shall immediately declare as follows: 

(1) In accordance with Article III, § 9 of the Constitution of United Provinces of Vuode and Dandenburg, as the first order of business of the Grand Session of the Estats Xhereais for the United Provinces of Vuode and Dandenburg, I hereby nominate Chirbi Scherpa-Carriedo as Premier; and 


(2) In accordance with Article III, § 10 of the Constitution of the United Provinces of Vuode and Dandenburg, as the second order of business of the Grand Session of the Estats Xhereias for the United Provinces of Vuode and Dandenburg, I hereby nominate Viteu Marcianüs, myself, as Presiding Officer of the Grand Session.

[Eðo Grischun]

Thank you, Councillor Marcianüs.

I second the nominations of Councillor Scherpa-Carriedo for Premier and Councillor Marcianüs for Presiding Officer and I also vote in the affirmative for both.

[Trotxâ]

Thank you, Councillor Marcianüs.

I also vote for Councillor Scherpa-Carriedo for Premier and Councillor Marcianüs for Presiding Officer.

[Viteu Marcianüs]

With all due respect, Sir T, while I appreciate your support, you did not assert your right to sit in this chamber, and as such, are not entitled to claim a seat upon its convention (see talossa.proboards.com/post/158144/thread).

[Viteu Marcianüs]

The Claiming Our Autonomy Act

WHEREAS the Organic Law, Article IV, Section 7 grants the United Provinces of Vuode and Dandenburg authority to elect a Senator to the represent the province in the Senäts pursuant to its own laws; 

WHEREAS the Constitution of the United Province of Vuode and Dandenburg does not speak to how its national Senator shall be elected; 

THEREFORE, Estats Xhenerais, as authorized under the articles III and IV of the Constitution of the United Provinces of Vuode and Dandenburg, RESOLVES to hereby invokes its right under Section 7 of Article IV of the Organic Law of the Kingdom of Talossa and rescinds any prior grants of permission for the Chancery to conduct its Senatorial election; 

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the following statute is established for election of the Senator to represent the United Provinces of Vuode and Dandenburg: 

The National Senate Election Law

§ 1 - A prospective Senator must openly declare their intention to sit as a candidate for Senate no later than ten (10) days prior to the end of the last Cosâ preceding an election. 

§ 2 - All votes must be publicly recorded through a post on the established national forum known as Wittenburg within Vuode's sub-forum prior to the close of the national election, and no votes made elsewhere shall be recorded or counted.  

§ 3 - In the event the Estats Xhenerais fails to vote to appoint a new Senator within 10 days of a vacancy occurring, then the Premier of the province shall have the emergency power to immediately make such appointment sans vote; if a further 5 days pass without an appointment being made then the emergency power to appoint shall fall to the Crown.

[Eðo Grischun]

Aug 11, 2018 21:29:27 GMT -6 Viteu Marcianüs said:

The Claiming Our Autonomy Act

WHEREAS the Organic Law, Article IV, Section 7 grants the United Provinces of Vuode and Dandenburg authority to elect a Senator to the represent the province in the Senäts pursuant to its own laws; 

WHEREAS the Constitution of the United Province of Vuode and Dandenburg does not speak to how its national Senator shall be elected; 

THEREFORE, Estats Xhenerais, as authorized under the articles III and IV of the Constitution of the United Provinces of Vuode and Dandenburg, RESOLVES to hereby invokes its right under Section 7 of Article IV of the Organic Law of the Kingdom of Talossa and rescinds any prior grants of permission for the Chancery to conduct its Senatorial election; 

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the following statute is established for election of the Senator to represent the United Provinces of Vuode and Dandenburg: 

The National Senate Election Law

§ 1 - A prospective Senator must openly declare their intention to sit as a candidate for Senate no later than ten (10) days prior to the end of the last Cosâ preceding an election. 

§ 2 - All votes must be publicly recorded through a post on the established national forum known as Wittenburg within Vuode's sub-forum prior to the close of the national election, and no votes made elsewhere shall be recorded or counted.  

§ 3 - Notwithstanding any national law to the contrary, in the event a sitting Senator vacates his or her seat, the Estats Xehenerais shall immediately vote to appoint a new Senator. 

How about adding something like "In the event the Estats Xhenerais fails to vote to appoint a new Senator within 7 days of a vacancy occurring, then the Premier of the province shall have the emergency power to immediately make such appointment sans vote; If a further 3 days pass without an appointment being made then the emergency power to appoint shall fall to the Crown." ?

[Viteu Marcianüs]

I'm inclined to agree to that. Perhaps 10 days 10 days with 5 days?

[Eðo Grischun]

Aug 24, 2018 17:15:44 GMT -6 Viteu Marcianüs said:

I'm inclined to agree to that. Perhaps 10 days 10 days with 5 days?

Yeah, sure. I don't feel strongly either way on the number of days for each stage. I would just like to see a mechanism included for the 'what if?' scenario.

[Viteu Marcianüs]

This bill, with the aforementioned changesx shall be voted on in the next clark.

[Eðo Grischun]

Oct 16, 2018 23:25:15 GMT -6 Viteu Marcianüs said:

This bill, with the aforementioned changesx shall be voted on in the next clark.

Assuming that this notice is active, I hereby vote PER.

[Viteu Marcianüs]

Thank you Eδo. I, too, vote PER.

[Eðo Grischun]

Nov 9, 2018 13:12:02 GMT -6 Viteu Marcianüs said:

Thank you Eδo. I, too, vote PER.

The business has passed whether Councillor Scherpa appears or not.

The bill will become provincial law.

Viteu Marcianüs, could you provide the final text of the bill so I could copy and paste it over to the provincial digest on the Wiki? (Unless you wish to do it yourself, of course. Happy to help if required.)

[Eðo Grischun]

And, congratulations. This is the first piece of legislation that the province has dealt with in years!

[Viteu Marcianüs]

Thank you for taking the initiative- the text is how it appears in this thread. I understand Vuode is more English in the sense that we dont have a codified code like el Lex, which we arguably dont need.

[Viteu Marcianüs]

I did not realize that the text didn't update.  Nevertheless, because the two voters were in agreement on modifying language of Section 3, as well as the time, the votes that came after encompassed that modification.  Hence, § 3 should read as follows -

"In the event the Estats Xhenerais fails to vote to appoint a new Senator within 10 days of a vacancy occurring, then the Premier of the province shall have the emergency power to immediately make such appointment sans vote; if a further 5 days pass without an appointment being made then the emergency power to appoint shall fall to the Crown."

This is the language and time that we had discussed, agreed to, and voted for, above. Sorry for any confusion.