Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Oct 28, 2015 17:10:13 GMT -6
Estimats Senatôrs és MCs:
Since his Majesty hasn't popped his head in to ixnay it yet, the Royal Commission on the OrgLaw is being set up in accordance with 48RZ18:
The Government is very close to confirming its three nominations, and I have received one nomination from the minor parties in the Cosă. No word yet on who the RUMP's two nominees, or the King's 1-3 non-political nominees, will be yet, but they have until this Sunday to work that out.
Méirci.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Oct 28, 2015 17:48:04 GMT -6
Two questions about your Commission, if you don't mind?
First of all, how will the nominee from among the other parties be chosen? If S:reu Hayes nominates himself and someone is nominated from the TSP, who gets to choose the winner? You? His Majesty?
Second of all, if something holds up the Government discussion, or the RUMP or His Majesty take more than a few days to make their choice, what happens to those seats?
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Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă
Puisne (Associate) Justice of the Uppermost Court
Fraichetz dels punts, es non dels mürs
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Post by Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă on Oct 28, 2015 18:11:48 GMT -6
Two questions about your Commission, if you don't mind? First of all, how will the nominee from among the other parties be chosen? If S:reu Hayes nominates himself and someone is nominated from the TSP, who gets to choose the winner? You? His Majesty? Second of all, if something holds up the Government discussion, or the RUMP or His Majesty take more than a few days to make their choice, what happens to those seats? If I am reading the law correctly Sir Alexandreu, the government chooses 3, the largest opposition party chooses 2, and each party in the Cosa not otherwise represented chooses 1 each. Add in His Majesty's nominees, and we have a commission.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Oct 28, 2015 18:14:46 GMT -6
If S:reu Hayes nominates himself and someone is nominated from the TSP, who gets to choose the winner? You? His Majesty? His Majesty. I don't run this Commission. I'm just making sure it happens. As to what happens if the RUMP boycott or deliberately don't make nominations to sandbag the Royal Commission take their time about it? I expect what will happen is that the Commission will start without them, but they can catch up when they're ready. Of course His Majesty might say something different - I've contacted him.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Oct 28, 2015 18:20:01 GMT -6
If I am reading the law correctly Sir Alexandreu, the government chooses 3, the largest opposition party chooses 2, and each party in the Cosa not otherwise represented chooses 1 each. Add in His Majesty's nominees, and we have a commission. I'm not sure that's right. It looks like they get one representative total, not each.
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Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă
Puisne (Associate) Justice of the Uppermost Court
Fraichetz dels punts, es non dels mürs
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Talossan Since: 9-23-2012
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Post by Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă on Oct 28, 2015 18:22:18 GMT -6
If I am reading the law correctly Sir Alexandreu, the government chooses 3, the largest opposition party chooses 2, and each party in the Cosa not otherwise represented chooses 1 each. Add in His Majesty's nominees, and we have a commission. I'm not sure that's right. It looks like they get one representative total, not each. That's possible. On a quick read it looks like each get one, but upon closer read I do see your point.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Oct 28, 2015 18:26:18 GMT -6
The sponsor and leader of the Commission seems to agree, above, and she wrote the bill.
Dama, again out of curiosity, why does His Majesty get to make the choice? That's a smart thing, by the way! The monarchy is one of our most important institutions and the reason why a lot of people are Talossan at all, and these sorts of roles are a great use of that institution. But when I read the bill, it looks more like the small parties get together and decide it among themselves? Is that not right?
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Oct 28, 2015 18:30:23 GMT -6
Whichever. The law is vague and therefore flexible. I've communicated with the TSP and MC Hayes and am communicating the results of those communications to his Majesty.
Despite your smarmy attempt at Republican-baiting above, this is a Royal Commission, so obviously the Head of State is the person to be a neutral arbiter, in accordance with the law.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Oct 28, 2015 18:34:06 GMT -6
Whichever. The law is vague and therefore flexible. I've communicated with the TSP and MC Hayes and am communicating the results of those communications to his Majesty. Despite your smarmy attempt at Republican-baiting above, this is a Royal Commission, so obviously the Head of State is the person to be a neutral arbiter, in accordance with the law. In the future, it might be a good idea to be specific, rather than vague. I don't think this is a big deal -- I doubt the TSP and Hayes will be fighting over the spot! I wasn't trying to be smarmy above, either. I think it's important to recognize and appreciate the important role that His Majesty the King plays in these sorts of proceedings, and to draw attention to that fact. The monarchy is one of the best things about the Kingdom of Talossa, after all!
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Oct 31, 2015 13:28:33 GMT -6
I'd just like to confirm that the TSP has made a nomination and MC Hayes has not responded to any contacts yet. I'll give him a while longer before passing the TSP nomination on to the King.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Oct 31, 2015 14:12:32 GMT -6
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Oct 31, 2015 21:07:13 GMT -6
The RUMP nominates Dame Litz Cjantscheir, UrN and Sir C. M. Siervicül, two of the most distinguished legislators and accomplished jurists in Talossa, as well as practicing legal experts and cultural adepts, to the Commission.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Nov 1, 2015 13:04:07 GMT -6
As for the minor party nominees, I have received nominations from both Nicholas Hayes and Gaglhen Fortaleça. So unless one of them withdraws, it will be up to the King to decide which one sits on the commission. We also await the King's decision on 1-3 non-MCs; but it seems we have a majority of the Commission now. Perhaps we could informally put our heads together and discuss an agenda, a method of work, and maybe a Chair.
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Ian Plätschisch
Senator for Maritiimi-Maxhestic
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Post by Ian Plätschisch on Nov 1, 2015 13:51:31 GMT -6
Perhaps we could informally put our heads together and discuss an agenda, a method of work, and maybe a Chair. In this thread, or in a different one that is not dedicated to nominations?
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Nov 1, 2015 15:13:28 GMT -6
I'm not on the Commission, so this is the only time I'll butt my head in, but I should say that it would be rather irregular for any group to begin electing a head, deciding on an agenda and rules, and so on before its members are all decided, much less confirmed. But, as I've said before on this sort of thing, it's your funeral.
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