Request for arms

[Cresti da Ion Nouacastra]

What is your name? Cresti da Ion Newton

What is your request? If it so please the Squirrel King of Arms, I request the assistance of the College in designing and obtaining arms for myself and my lawful heirs (now that I am of voting age).

What is your favourite colour? Black/blue

Work has already been done on my CoA. Most of us should know.

[Ián B. Anglatzarâ]

Belated happy birthday and welcome to Talossan adulthood!

[Cresti da Ion Nouacastra]

Oct 29, 2014 1:59:28 GMT -6 Ián B. Anglatzarâ said:

Belated happy birthday and welcome to Talossan adulthood!

Very much appreciated

[Sir C. M. Siervicül]

From and for The Royal Talossan College of Arms

Azul Cresti,

As Squirrel Viceroy of Arms, I am pleased to accept your request for assistance in designing arms. I now charge the Kingsbridge Pursuivant, Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă, Dean of the College, with assigning one of the Fellows of the College to provide that assistance.

Bartleby Pursuivant
Squirrel Viceroy of Arms

[Cresti da Ion Nouacastra]

I don't know if it's too late for a change, but I do have a few new ideas for a CoA.

[Txosuè Éiric Rôibeardescù]

you have barely started
Lets here these idias, all are good

[Cresti da Ion Nouacastra]

Nov 11, 2014 5:33:35 GMT -6 Txosuè Éiric Rôibeardescù said:

you have barely started
Lets here these idias, all are good

Well, I wanted to make it look like this CoA I saw on a TV show. It looks like this:   But maybe instead of a navy-blue background in the middle, could it be black? And instead of roses (if those are roses), could those change and become maple leafs? Like my original design? 

[Sir C. M. Siervicül]

Nov 11, 2014 5:56:04 GMT -6 Cresti da Ion Nouacastra said:

Well, I wanted to make it look like this CoA I saw on a TV show. It looks like this: View Attachment  But maybe instead of a navy-blue background in the middle, could it be black? And instead of roses (if those are roses), could those change and become maple leafs? Like my original design? 

Cresti,

There are a few problems with your example. First, it uses bleu-celeste, which is a tincture not permitted in Talossan arms. Second, it has poor contrast in that it features an escutcheon of a colour on top of a field divided into two colours. Elements of a colour should be placed on elements of a metal, and vice-versa. Third, it creates an appearance of marshalling, which is combining multiple independent coats of arms into one design (e.g. to show descent and inheritance of arms from multiple armigers). Specifically, your example has two designs quartered (first and third vert with fleurs-de-lis or and second and fourth bleu-celeste with double roses argent and gules) and a third design (Holy Britannian Empire) in escutcheon. The arms of the Holy Britannian Empire themselves have poor contrast as well. Fourth, the complexity of this design is way beyond the allowable eight points (somewhere on the order of thirteen).

I suggest you read the rules of heraldry used by the College. The relevant ones discussed above are II.4 (allowable tinctures and contrast), I.3 (marshalling), and II.1.a (complexity rule).

EDIT: I guess the quarters I interpreted as blue-celeste are probably intended to be azure, which is allowable. The shade of azure used is just unusually light. The combination of tinctures makes the field of the escutcheon appear to me as a very dark shade of azure, though I know it's supposed to be sable.

[Cresti da Ion Nouacastra]

Nov 11, 2014 7:00:57 GMT -6 Sir C. M. Siervicül said:

Nov 11, 2014 5:56:04 GMT -6 Cresti da Ion Nouacastra said:

Well, I wanted to make it look like this CoA I saw on a TV show. It looks like this: View Attachment  But maybe instead of a navy-blue background in the middle, could it be black? And instead of roses (if those are roses), could those change and become maple leafs? Like my original design? 

Cresti,

There are a few problems with your example. First, it uses bleu-celeste, which is a tincture not permitted in Talossan arms. Second, it has poor contrast in that it features an escutcheon of a colour on top of a field divided into two colours. Elements of a colour should be placed on elements of a metal, and vice-versa. Third, it creates an appearance of marshalling, which is combining multiple independent coats of arms into one design (e.g. to show descent and inheritance of arms from multiple armigers). Specifically, your example has two designs quartered (first and third vert with fleurs-de-lis or and second and fourth bleu-celeste with double roses argent and gules) and a third design (Holy Britannian Empire) in escutcheon. The arms of the Holy Britannian Empire themselves have poor contrast as well. Fourth, the complexity of this design is way beyond the allowable eight points (somewhere on the order of thirteen).

I suggest you read the rules of heraldry used by the College. The relevant ones discussed above are II.4 (allowable tinctures and contrast), I.3 (marshalling), and II.1.a (complexity rule).

I see. It was just a thought. I will stick with my original design. So many rules to heraldry!

[Moritz Fernaodescu]

It's happening

[Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă]

Azul. My apologies for my delay in replying. I have been dealing with serious family matters. As you already have an approved version of a CoA, would you wish to use that design?

Regards,

The Kingsbridge Pursuivant
Dean of the College of Arms

[Cresti da Ion Nouacastra]

Nov 18, 2014 7:19:10 GMT -6 Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă said:

Azul. My apologies for my delay in replying. I have been dealing with serious family matters. As you already have an approved version of a CoA, would you wish to use that design?

Regards,

The Kingsbridge Pursuivant
Dean of the College of Arms

Yes sir. My original version will work just fine. Thank you.

[Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă]

Here is your original request and the one I will submit to the King. I will need to check on the next Honours date, however.

Sable a maple leaf argent.



Civlaineu üna föglha da cóstiga d'erxhent

Attachments:

[Cresti da Ion Nouacastra]

Nov 18, 2014 14:50:56 GMT -6 Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă said:

Here is your original request and the one I will submit to the King. I will need to check on the next Honours date, however.

Sable a maple leaf argent.



Civlaineu üna föglha da cóstiga d'erxhent

Thank you sir.

[Béneditsch Ardpresteir, O.SPM.]

Since the citizen subsequently made another request for grant of a CoA, this petition is hereby closed as terminated.

Sd/-
Dean Béneditsch Ardpresteir, O.SPM.