Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
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Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Sept 6, 2013 5:26:35 GMT -6
So:
1) if both Carlüs and myself want a tilt at the Fiôvâ Senate seat, then we'll have to select a candidate.
2) Do we have nominations for the other Senäts seats, or the Cosâ lists; or shall we leave those for the new CC to sort out?
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Post by Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir on Sept 6, 2013 6:29:22 GMT -6
Personally i think we should settle this now, at the convention, and any further changes after the convention which may be required can then be done by the CC, assumong anyone wishes to speak up. Also might i ask what your refering to as Cosa list? MC's?
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Sept 6, 2013 9:06:00 GMT -6
A Cosa list is a list of candidates we're putting up for election to the Cosa, so yes, MCs. So far, only contestants for the Fiova election have declared their interest.
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Post by Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir on Sept 6, 2013 10:14:34 GMT -6
Ahh fair enough. Well the Cosa list i think we can do inhouse later on before the election. But if theyre is anyone who wishes to stand they should have the option to declare it now (for the senate anyway)
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Sept 8, 2013 18:14:24 GMT -6
Right. Let's move to the Fiôvâ Senatorial candidate elections.
Carlüs, want to make a speech as to why you're the best republican for the job, and what aspects of the incumbent's record you'll campaign on?
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Sept 8, 2013 18:36:44 GMT -6
Will do.
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Sept 9, 2013 4:06:31 GMT -6
Ladies and gentlemen, why am I the best republican for the job? In truth, any republican would make a good candidate for the Senatorial race in Fiova. It is a province born from the ashes of the Talossan Republic, and for the foreseeable future it shall only be a republican who represents it in the Senate. But, who better to put forward as a candidate to represent Fiova than its own head of government?
For an avid provincialist, there is no greater honour than to represent my own province in the Ziu. The opportunity to represent this party’s values, which are naturally occurring in Fiova’s fabric is why I am seeking your endorsement. I’ve served the province as its head of government for over a year, and now I wish to go a step further and fight for the Free Province in Talossa’s Senate. As I said, it would be a great honour to have the chance to stand on our behalf; I understand that Miestra has had prior experience with seeking Senatorial election in the province, but perhaps I will have better fortune if I’m given the opportunity.
If I do manage to win the election, as I have already noted, I will be stepping down as Capitan of Fiova in the interest of keeping power widely dispersed. If we get that far I’ll support Miestra if she so wishes to fill the vacancy. Wanting to keep this fairly short, I shan’t bore you any further, and naturally I’ll answer any questions you may have.
Thank you!
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Sept 9, 2013 4:30:41 GMT -6
I put it to you, Zérétistàes, that to lose Carlüs not only as our Capitán but as the leader of our Cosâ delegation would be a bitter blow. I would reluctantly stand for Capitán of Fiôvâ, not because I don't love the Free Province, but because I don't have nearly the enthusiasm for province-building as Carlüs, the arch-devolutionist and federalist.
Let's pick the best people for the best jobs. The leader of our delegation in the Cosâ should be the Leader of our Party, the alternative Seneschál, someone who can unify and lead the Opposition blocs. In contrast, a Senator should be a quasi-independent "loose cannon". I ask you - who's better to do job #1, and who's better to do job #2? If you want to keep Carlüs as Capitán (to which he was, remember, elected by all the Province, Republican and otherwise) and Leader of the Opposition in the Cosâ, I beg you to support me as our Senäts candidate. Grült méirçi.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Sept 9, 2013 4:38:20 GMT -6
Oh, I forgot. I have nothing but greatest respect for former President Anglatzarâ as a staunch little-r republican and a Senator. However; it's really not fair that the largest opposition party doesn't have a seat in the Upper House. I wouldn't mind if Ián would accept ZRT endorsement in return for caucusing with us and (loosely) following our voting guidelines; but if he's not good with that, then one of us has to challenge him, and as above, I think it should not be Carlüs.
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Sept 9, 2013 4:45:28 GMT -6
Why not have a bit of a debate, eh? I'd like to remind you that a fellow opposition party which operates effectively has their leader in the Senate. To my knowledge, that hasn't negatively impacted their ability to organise, and neither has it affected the leadership of their party. I would add that whilst I am flattered by Miestra's indication that I am better suited to the Cosa than her, I would counter by saying that everyone here knows which of us is the more fiery, and better used to the often extremely heated debate of the Cosa. I would be far more at home in the Senate, where debate happens in a far more deliberative, slower-paced fashion.
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Post by D. N. Vercáriâ on Sept 9, 2013 5:31:18 GMT -6
Interjection from the balcony: Slower paced, that's a Peculiarist virtue.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Sept 9, 2013 5:43:58 GMT -6
Since we've got the Peculiarists listening in, perhaps we should ask them which ZRT candidate would be more likely to get a [2] recommendation from the NPW.
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Sept 9, 2013 6:06:28 GMT -6
Interjection from the balcony: Slower paced, that's a Peculiarist virtue. You'll be supporting my candidacy then, I presume?
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Post by D. N. Vercáriâ on Sept 9, 2013 7:25:16 GMT -6
Interjection from the balcony: Slower paced, that's a Peculiarist virtue. You'll be supporting my candidacy then, I presume? I'd rather recommend voting for the original.
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Post by Ián B. Anglatzarâ on Sept 9, 2013 9:19:56 GMT -6
Oh, I forgot. I have nothing but greatest respect for former President Anglatzarâ as a staunch little-r republican and a Senator. However; it's really not fair that the largest opposition party doesn't have a seat in the Upper House. I wouldn't mind if Ián would accept ZRT endorsement in return for caucusing with us and (loosely) following our voting guidelines; but if he's not good with that, then one of us has to challenge him, and as above, I think it should not be Carlüs. As a note from the sideline: I would not be the least bit offended if I was challenged (to be honest, I'm not even sure I'm running again but that's beside the point). Of course a political party should look to maximizing its influence.
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