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Post by D. N. Vercáriâ on Jun 25, 2012 14:10:58 GMT -6
Will you vote "PRESENT", or will you prepare for the first strike?
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Post by Ián B. Anglatzarâ on Jun 25, 2012 14:17:04 GMT -6
Will you vote "PRESENT", or will you prepare for the first strike? I have already voted, that's what Miestrâ noticed. I voted Austanéu for Senator but "properly" in all other elections. |
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Glüc da Dhi
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Jun 25, 2012 14:19:54 GMT -6
I dont think you get a strike for that. You could fill in MRPT for the senäts part. That way you dont vote for yourself but for a party. And the party then votes for you.  |
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jun 25, 2012 14:26:45 GMT -6
OI! Glüc! Do I come into your province and campaign against you for Senator? No!  |
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Jun 25, 2012 14:30:40 GMT -6
Well, Im not really campaiging against anyone.
Anyway, feel free to visit Cézembre anytime, for whatever reason.
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Post by D. N. Vercáriâ on Jun 25, 2012 14:32:30 GMT -6
Will you vote "PRESENT", or will you prepare for the first strike? I have already voted, that's what Miestrâ noticed. I voted Austanéu for Senator but "properly" in all other elections. For a moment I was wondering if you had chosen to become a martyr for the secret ballot. No irony in this. It made me ask myself if it would be a worthy idea to follow this example. |
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Post by Ián B. Anglatzarâ on Jun 25, 2012 14:39:31 GMT -6
I have already voted, that's what Miestrâ noticed. I voted Austanéu for Senator but "properly" in all other elections. For a moment I was wondering if you had chosen to become a martyr for the secret ballot. No irony in this. It made me ask myself if it would be a worthy idea to follow this example. I considered that and will continue to consider it for as long as the ballot is not secret. But at least for now I decided against it, partly because I will ruffle no feathers and upset no friends by voting as I did. But had I decided that another party better represented my views and aims, I might well have decided to incur a strike instead. |
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jun 25, 2012 14:41:34 GMT -6
Quite seriously, I wouldn't have objected to you voting for any other opposition party, although I would have been surprised if it had been the Carlists. You don't owe the ZRT anything, although your historical contribution is appreciated.
Roll on secret ballot legislation in the next Cosâ.
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Post by Ián B. Anglatzarâ on Jun 27, 2012 5:31:16 GMT -6
Wait a minute... If I vote for a party which has endorsed a Senäts candidate, and I abstain in the Senäts election, will my vote be counted as being for the endorsed candidate?
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Jun 27, 2012 5:39:20 GMT -6
"In the event that a voter does not specify an individual candidate for Senate on his ballot, his vote for a political party shall apply to the candidate endorsed by that party. A voter may always vote for a different Senate candidate than the one endorsed by the party of his choice, by indicating said candidate on the ballot. "
I dont know exactly how the sos will intrepret specific abstain votes for the senäte part.
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Post by Ián B. Anglatzarâ on Jun 27, 2012 5:44:15 GMT -6
The way I read that text, it is impossible to vote for a party that has endorsed a candidate while abstaining in the Senäts election. Which would be completely bizarre, not to say truly undemocratic. But I cannot interpret it any other way.
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Jun 27, 2012 5:51:02 GMT -6
well, after the elections the text will be "A political partiy may endorse a candidate
for any vacant Senate seat. In the event that a voter specifies that party as
his choice for that Senate seat, his vote shall be counted for the candidate
so endorsed."
A lot better, but still not the way I think it should be.
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Post by Ián B. Anglatzarâ on Jun 27, 2012 6:02:37 GMT -6
That would be acceptable, though. But I want the SoS to comment on this.
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Jun 27, 2012 6:55:02 GMT -6
Wait a minute... If I vote for a party which has endorsed a Senäts candidate, and I abstain in the Senäts election, will my vote be counted as being for the endorsed candidate? My opinion would be "No, you did not vote for the endorsed candidate". You specifically stated that your vote would be an abstaining vote. You have ( in more words) stated that you wish to vote for no candidate at all, but you would like your feelings known on the issue. The intent of the wording was that if the vote was left blank , THEN you would be assumed that you wanted your vote for the party in the Cosa to also be for the same Party backed candidate in the Senate. |
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Post by Ián B. Anglatzarâ on Jun 27, 2012 7:17:54 GMT -6
If I can trust that this interpretation will be applied and upheld, I am content.
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