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Post by D. N. Vercáriâ on Mar 10, 2012 6:45:37 GMT -6
J The big issue with one MC one vote, as we've found out in the Republic, is the "vacant seat" problem caused by political apathy. I'd like to disagree. IMHO there were too many offices to be filled, for an overall population of 18 souls, of which only half or less had enough time at hands to care about Talossan things every day. A President, 5 Deputies, 1 SoS, that's 7 offices; then 3 or 4 guys would be entitled to hang out in the Senäts. That is, more than half of the population were holding offices, and unfortunately the same people had to reshuffle the same deck over and over again. That didn't cause apathy, it caused exhaustion. A 200-seats-CoD wouldn't have saved us from this.
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Post by Istefan Lorentzescu on Mar 10, 2012 9:57:57 GMT -6
it must be me
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Mar 10, 2012 15:09:21 GMT -6
In any case, I still declare it an offence against accountable democracy for people not to know exactly who their vote is putting in the Cosâ. Party lists to be compulsory and no seats to be filled by anyone not on the list. If the list runs out, then a by-election.
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Post by D. N. Vercáriâ on Mar 10, 2012 15:44:56 GMT -6
This, and no fear of empty seats in case of a landslide vote in favour of small parties. IMO, it's part of a democratic resposibility to do a bit more than just ticking a box in the ballot, no matter what the consequences may be. What's the point of having popular MCs with the power of more than one seat, if nobody's willing to provide practical support?
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Mar 10, 2012 16:26:05 GMT -6
... you must admit there's at least a surface incongruity in the leader of Peculiarists saying his #1 priority is a reform that would make Talossa more like the many countries that use party list proportional representation. You seem to operate under the assumption that it's the Peculiarists' intention to do crazy things and to be different by all means. You seem to operate under the assumption that my words actually mean something other that what they're actually saying.
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Post by Benedict Stamford on Mar 10, 2012 21:50:01 GMT -6
I think so. By the way, I am a Republican, maybe even more anti-monarchist than many others, but I think the issue of having a King or not is something that I'd gladly put aside if some more essential issues could be resolved first. A one MC, one seat, one vote policy is at the top of the list, IMO. who cares fartbox? Sriiously! You arent even anted here, but come crawling back and act like entitled little bitches.
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Mar 10, 2012 22:00:31 GMT -6
Just a question. The Kingdom is enforcing the 14 year old age limit on immigrants, right? Benny the Corncob is raising my suspicion he might actually be two 7-year-olds in an adult trenchcoat.
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Post by Hooligan on Mar 10, 2012 22:20:54 GMT -6
who cares fartbox? Sriiously! You arent even anted here, but come crawling back and act like entitled little bitches. This kind of post is not welcome. These forums have always been welcoming to all guests, and to see someone behave like this is truly an affront to your fellow citizens and speaks poorly of our nation. Hooligan (who found himself and his party similarly insulted in private by this poster) P.S. As for the corncob, achievements of arms are granted by the King to those who the King believes will consistently act honourably as his subjects, and they can be, and have been, revoked by the King for those who prove otherwise.
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Post by Doug Earnest on Mar 10, 2012 22:54:17 GMT -6
Just a question. The Kingdom is enforcing the 14 year old age limit on immigrants, right? Benny the Corncob is raising my suspicion he might actually be two 7-year-olds in an adult trenchcoat. Aye, and we didn't have to put up with this kind of malarkey when Robert I was king, did we?
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Post by Gödafrïeu Válcadác’h on Mar 10, 2012 23:25:57 GMT -6
I think so. By the way, I am a Republican, maybe even more anti-monarchist than many others, but I think the issue of having a King or not is something that I'd gladly put aside if some more essential issues could be resolved first. A one MC, one seat, one vote policy is at the top of the list, IMO. who cares fartbox? Sriiously! You arent even anted here, but come crawling back and act like entitled little bitches. 'fartbox'... Junk like this is what brings Talossa, the internet, and all civilization down. I look forward to engaging you in intelligent and vitriolic debates in months to come. ;-) In all seriousness, you do not know your Talossan history.
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Mar 10, 2012 23:36:06 GMT -6
Aye, and we didn't have to put up with this kind of malarkey when Robert I was king, did we? Actually, Ben was pretty tolerant of childish oafs (cf. Andrew Wozniak, Davron, Matt Dabrowski etc), but he did treat them as precisely that. Stamford's ill-spelt outpouring make Davron's description of Ián Metáirâ as "Homo Nazi #1" seem positively Wildean wit.
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Post by Doug Earnest on Mar 10, 2012 23:41:56 GMT -6
Well, in all seriousness, I just hope that if and when he renounces his citizenship he spells it right so we won't have to endure some big argument over what he really meant.
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Post by Eiric S. Börnatfiglheu on Mar 11, 2012 0:15:01 GMT -6
Just a question. The Kingdom is enforcing the 14 year old age limit on immigrants, right? Benny the Corncob is raising my suspicion he might actually be two 7-year-olds in an adult trenchcoat. Aye, and we didn't have to put up with this kind of malarkey when Robert I was king, did we? Depends on your attitudes regarding Matt Dabrowski. EDIT: JUST NOTICED MIESTRA BEAT ME TO IT
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