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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2009 13:35:10 GMT -6
Folks,
Due to some internal disagreements with my party, I offered my resignation as Minister of Defence. Upon leaving office, I will return to active duty as a Capitan pursuant to 35 RZ32. However, I would like to continue working on the policy side of our military, so...
WHEREAS 35 RZ32 the Naval Reorganization Act allows for the appointment of an Admiral to oversea the Talossan Navy and
WHEREAS this post is presently vacant and
WHEREAS 35 RZ32 mandates that the position be filled by a person recommended by the Minister of Defence and approved by the King and
WHEREAS I am, at the moment the Minister of Defence and there exists no legal reason that I cannot recommend myself so
THEREFORE, I T.M. Asmourescu, Minister of Defence, do hereby recommend myself to fill the post of Admiral of the Royal Talossan Navy and pray that HRH King John shall assent.
Uréu q'estadra sa: T.M. Asmourescu, Minister of Defence, MC
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Feb 15, 2009 17:41:10 GMT -6
I think it would be better to allow the Minister of Defense to name someone he wants to work with to the post, instead. That may be you, of course, but it may not. I will vote against this.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2009 17:44:26 GMT -6
I'm with AD -- let's allow the new MoD to name the post.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2009 17:48:37 GMT -6
Like all of the previous Admirals we've had?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2009 17:51:21 GMT -6
I am within my rights to make this recommendation while I continue to hold this post, Senator Davis's objection has been noted but the bill shall stand.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Feb 15, 2009 18:02:13 GMT -6
Legally, of course you can do this. I was just telling you I am not going to vote for it, especially since you don't give any reason why the Minister of Defense shouldn't appoint to the post instead of you.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2009 18:08:22 GMT -6
Presently I am the Minister of Defence. Once my resignation takes effect, I will have no legal standing to make this recommendation. Once I have resigned and the new government appoints a new Min. Def, s/he may recommend whomever they wish. Until such time...
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Feb 15, 2009 18:17:43 GMT -6
Yes... legally, you can do this. I'm not disputing that. Honest. This is legal.
I'm probably just a little slow, though, but you still don't really say why it is a good thing to appoint yourself to the post instead of waiting for the MinDef to appoint someone. To me, it seems like the post would require a good working relationship between the MinDef and the admiral.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2009 18:22:31 GMT -6
And all I'm saying is that post resignation I cannot make this recommendation. Even if you vote against it, even if it fails to pass, I'm still the ranking officer unless a new MinDef recommends someone to be Admiral.
Since no new MinDef has been named and, even if they were, they hadn't mentioned naming someone to the place of Admiral, this is part of my "making sure the Ministry is taken care of post-resignation."
Again, if the new MinDef wants to appoint someone new to the Admiralty, I cannot imagine my recommendation would pass, so the new person will. No biggie. But at present, I cannot just leave a spot vacant because some day later, someone may, if they get around to it, recommend someone else fill the spot.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Feb 15, 2009 18:40:02 GMT -6
Ah, I see. You think it is very important to have someone in this position, then, and by filling it you're just trying to take care of the Ministry of Defense?
I don't know... I don't want to be cynical, but since you made do for the duration of your time as MinDef without an admiral, it does seem to me like it can't be particularly vital. You have been an excellent Ministreu, after all - many a time I have sung your praises - and I can't imagine you would have left the post vacant if it was important to have filled it. Is that what you're saying?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2009 18:44:53 GMT -6
I left it vacant because I had no one who could fill it.
If I leave without recommending ANYONE...we will not have an Admiral unless the new MinDef recommends one.
I will simply be the ranking Capitan once again, which is just fine with me.
So here is what I'm saying....
I make this recommendation as one of my last official duties.
If the new MinDef comes in and recommends someone else, great, have at it.
But otherwise, if there should be a gap when there is no new MinDef or the new guy just doesn't appoint an Admiral....there I am.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2009 18:57:44 GMT -6
But when it boils down to it, Alex....you do what you feel you have to do. I trust in your judgment and respect your vote, whether for or against.
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
Capitán of the Zouaves
Posts: 6,511
Talossan Since: 9-21-2006
Knight Since: 10-12-2010
Motto: Cuimhnichibh air na daoine bho'n d'thainig sibh
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Feb 15, 2009 20:59:55 GMT -6
Actually, I'd prefer that you not resign your position as Min of Defense.
I can understand your leaving the party. But I don't think you should leave your office.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2009 21:05:57 GMT -6
My resignation has been offered with a one week time stamp. If the government wishes to refuse the resignation, that is their prerogative. As I left the party which presently holds majority seats and who formed the government presently in power, I offered my resignation just as I would with an a new incoming PM, not because I loath my position or desire to cease my work in this Ministry.
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
Capitán of the Zouaves
Posts: 6,511
Talossan Since: 9-21-2006
Knight Since: 10-12-2010
Motto: Cuimhnichibh air na daoine bho'n d'thainig sibh
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Feb 15, 2009 21:22:47 GMT -6
Heck, I wish I could resign...
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