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Post by Iustì Carlüs Canun on Dec 5, 2008 13:16:25 GMT -6
(Yes, it could have a better title, I know.)
I'm new at this, but here goes nothing:
WHEREAS the name of the former Province of Mussolini was officially changed to Benito;
WHEREAS this change is not reflected in the online copy of the Organic Law;
THEREFORE Article IV, Section 3 of the 1997 Organic Law is amended to read: "Each time the Cosâ shall be dissolved, there shall be an election for the Senäts in two provinces. For purposes of elections to the Senäts, the provinces shall be listed in the following fixed order: Benito, Vuode, Atatürk, Cézembre, Florencia, Maricopa, Maritiimi-Maxhestic. Following the passage of this Act, the next elections for the Senäts shall be held in the two provinces for whom the greatest amount of time has elapsed since the last regular election for the Senäts."
Uréu q'estadra sa: Iustì Canun (CCCP-Maricopa)
(Be gentle, it's my first time.)
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Dec 5, 2008 15:20:55 GMT -6
I will refer you to 38PD1 especially the "furthermore" clause. Dréu |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2008 18:54:33 GMT -6
Is this just to move Benito into the "B" alphabetical position?
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Brad Holmes
Cunstaval to Maritiimi-Maxhestic
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Post by Brad Holmes on Dec 11, 2008 12:04:28 GMT -6
As weird as it sounds to say it, I agree with Dreu. Problem has been solved.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2008 14:29:12 GMT -6
I will refer you to 38PD1 especially the "furthermore" clause. Dréu True. But can't a PD be repealed much easier than an amendment? |
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Brad Holmes
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Post by Brad Holmes on Dec 11, 2008 17:25:08 GMT -6
True. But can't a PD be repealed much easier than an amendment? I suppose. However I don't see a threat to repeal said PD. |
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Dec 12, 2008 6:48:56 GMT -6
I will refer you to 38PD1 especially the "furthermore" clause. Dréu True. But can't a PD be repealed much easier than an amendment? But wouldn't the only reason we would repeal the PD be because we didn't want to call it Benito anymore? It's not like a really serious threat, as Brad said (Brad, this is getting weird!  ) |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2008 8:09:14 GMT -6
I suppose my point is that Benito is the only province right now who can have its name changed by a simple majority in the Ziu.
I can see the reasoning for it and if this amendment is clarked I will vote for it.
I'm not saying anyone is threatening the PD, just that an amendment bears a greater level of permanence.
The amendment wouldn't really hurt anything, it would just change the one instance of Mussolini to Benito.
A lot of you feel it is unnecessary, but do you honestly oppose it?
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Post by Iustì Carlüs Canun on Dec 12, 2008 11:30:34 GMT -6
Wow, I didn't think I'd stir up the wasps' nest this much.
I was unaware of 38PD1 at the time I wrote this.
But if, by some strange turn of events, it does get Clarked, I see no reason to oppose it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2008 11:32:08 GMT -6
I agree.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2008 13:06:28 GMT -6
Agreed here, too.
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Brad Holmes
Cunstaval to Maritiimi-Maxhestic
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Post by Brad Holmes on Dec 12, 2008 20:53:59 GMT -6
I can't say that I oppose this.
But I can't say that I support it either.
My big fear/problem is how this would erase Mussolini from Talossan history. I know that some will argue that other documents will retain the name of Mussolini, but none as important as the OrgLaw.
Now that everyone uses the name Benito, any new immigrants would never know about the name change unless they went back and read older posts, etc. But I do think that having Mussolini remain in the OrgLaw is a quirk (and quirks make life worth living) that any alert, self-educated prospective would ask about and would be a neat history lesson.
I don't want to lose history.
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Post by Iustì Carlüs Canun on Dec 12, 2008 21:42:55 GMT -6
S:reu Holmes, you have swayed me.
I hereby withdraw the proposed amendment, and ask that it not be Clarked, in the spirit of Talossanity.
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Dec 14, 2008 9:30:14 GMT -6
I can't say that I oppose this. But I can't say that I support it either. My big fear/problem is how this would erase Mussolini from Talossan history. I know that some will argue that other documents will retain the name of Mussolini, but none as important as the OrgLaw. Now that everyone uses the name Benito, any new immigrants would never know about the name change unless they went back and read older posts, etc. But I do think that having Mussolini remain in the OrgLaw is a quirk (and quirks make life worth living) that any alert, self-educated prospective would ask about and would be a neat history lesson. I don't want to lose history. Lord Hooligan and Cresti wrote a new grammar, why doesn't someone finally dust off their pen and paper and begin writing a new chapter in àr päts? To document the history from Ben's leaving to now. Like a history textbook. |
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Post by Iustì Carlüs Canun on Dec 14, 2008 21:25:44 GMT -6
Also, I notice that the Talossan words in the OrgLaw are still in pre-Arestada orthography.
Should this change? I want to get the general feeling about this before I start another thread, and this is in the same vein.
ÜC eda NON?
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