Vit Caçeir
"I hated being AG so much I fled as far from it as literally possible."
Posts: 810
Talossan Since: 11-19-2007
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Post by Vit Caçeir on Jan 28, 2008 16:09:04 GMT -6
I believe this modified bill is a good revision of the original, and covers all areas of scrutiny, and I look forward to supporting it when it is clarked.
EDIT: Grammar mistake
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Jan 28, 2008 16:22:49 GMT -6
I will reclark this properly when the ten days have expired. Whoops!
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Feb 8, 2008 21:39:22 GMT -6
I would like to Clark this bill for consideration by the Ziu, S:reu Secretary of State. The final version is on the bottom of the previous page.
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Sir X. Pol Briga
Talossan since 11-10-2005 Knight since 12-26-2009
59 is an important number - keep it prime in the thoughts of Talossa
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Post by Sir X. Pol Briga on Feb 14, 2008 0:52:35 GMT -6
I will be happy to compile generalized information at the US Census Block Group level for each and every location within the GTA, and where Talossan Citizens currently live when outside the realm. Thus should there be objection to individual reporting of information, this could be derived from the information of approxmiately 4 to 10 urban city blocks on average, thus protecting individual information but reflecting the general characteristics of the citizenry by proximity.
XPB
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Post by Nic Casálmac'h on Feb 14, 2008 12:11:22 GMT -6
There is one question that has not been asked (and perhaps there is a reason for this), but why does such a matter need to be dealt with in a bill?
I am not in favor of legislation for legislation's sake and this seems to me to be something that could be done without. It seems to me this information is merely a matter of interest, and not of governmental importance. It might be kind of neat to include such things on the Wikipedia page, as there are for other nations, but then again, it might just look kind of silly.
So if somebody could explain why a bill is necessary, I would appreciate it. I may just be missing something.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Feb 14, 2008 12:30:14 GMT -6
So if somebody could explain why a bill is necessary, I would appreciate it. I may just be missing something. WHEREAS this will yield not just interesting information about the character of our nation, but also useful knowledge that we might use to better tailor our recruiting processes, and WHEREAS there have been a variety of attempted censuses in the past, achieving results that have been negligible at best, and
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Post by Nic Casálmac'h on Feb 14, 2008 13:40:51 GMT -6
I meant beyond that. Is the understanding that a law is more likely to have better effect than any private undertaking just because it is a law?
Oh, and I guess such a thing would tell us who we aren't attracting and should be.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Feb 14, 2008 13:47:36 GMT -6
I guess this could be done as a private undertaking, but we have no private agency for such a thing that has spontaneously decided to do this. Instead, it has several times in the past been legislated and never carried out. With a RUMP government, of course, it will actually get done. That is why it is being passed into law: to make sure it happens this time. Since just waiting has so far not given us any censuses.
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Vit Caçeir
"I hated being AG so much I fled as far from it as literally possible."
Posts: 810
Talossan Since: 11-19-2007
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Post by Vit Caçeir on Feb 14, 2008 21:19:52 GMT -6
So if somebody could explain why a bill is necessary, I would appreciate it. I may just be missing something. I tend to agree with Senator Davis's response. Just because something should and could be done without the enactment of legislature, (unfortunately) doesn't mean it will. (i.e. this census, getting around to renaming the Mussolini province, or (in the case of our neighbour, the United States), having the federal government actually DO something about economic recession ). The enactment of a law, although maybe not 100% necessary, will ensure that the task is completed in its entirety and to the best of the operation organization's ability. I understand that you are not a supporter of "legislature just for legislature's sake", and I agree, but in a case like this, taking the census a step further and ensuring its completion, I believe, will not hinder the political process of the Kingdom.
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