Military Honours Act

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WHEREAS the military forces of Talossa are growing and

WHEREAS the accomplishments of her soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines should be recognized and

WHEREAS nothing makes a uniform look cooler than ribbons and medals and

WHEREAS presently there exists only one military campaign award and

WHEREAS the military presently has no other way of rewarding superior achievements of service members

THEREFORE the following citations are authorized to be issued by the Minister of Defence (MoD) or any Commissioned Officer the MoD may delegate such duties to:

Service Ribbons:

North American Service Ribbon (Green and white) awarded to any service member, upon completing Basic Training or receiving Commission, who has served honorably in the Armed Forces of any North American nation.

Asia Service Ribbon (Red with blue stripes) awarded to any service member, upon completing Basic Training or receiving Commission , who has served honorably in the Armed Forces of any Asian nation.

European Service Ribbon (Light Blue with white stripes) awarded to any service member, upon completing Basic Training or receiving Commission, who has served honorably in the Armed Forces of any European Nation, Australia or New Zealand.

African Service Ribbon (Green) awarded to any service member, upon completing Basic Training or receiving Commission, who has served honorably in the Armed Forces of any African Nation.

South American Service Ribbon (Red, green and white) awarded to any service member, upon completing Basic Training or receiving Commission, who has served honorably in the Armed Forces of any South American nation.

Talossa Service Ribbon (Red and Green) awarded to any service member who successfully completed Recruit Training, receives an Officers Commission or is appointed a Warrant Officer.

Achievement Awards:

Good Conduct Medal (Gold) awarded to all service members for one year of service without any disciplinary action.

Recruiter Ribbon (Green, Gold and Red Stripes) awarded to any service member who successfully recruits 5 people.

Achievement Medal (Red and White) Awarded by the Amirál (Admiral) [or equivalent] for significant achievements or exemplary Service.

Commendation Medal (Blue and white) awarded by the MoD for significant achievements or exemplary service.

With the following award to be issued at the pleasure of the King,

Royal Commendation Medal (Blue with two red stripes and a white break in the center) awarded by the Royal Household for significant achievements or exemplary service.

Devices:

To denote subsequent awards, the following devices are authorized to be worn on ribbons.

For Service Ribbons:

One silver star to denote each subsequent award.

For Achievement Awards

One Gold Star to denote each subsequent award.

Uréu q'estadra så:

T.M. Asmourescu, Capt. MRT, MC

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This has been sitting on my hard drive for entirely too long, just thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone had thoughts (good or bad) on the matter.

[Hooligan]

Here is hoping that the Recruiter Ribbon will be frequently awarded!

Hooligan

P.S. I promise I won't mention to the Zouaves how horrible your chosen colour-schemes will look on their uniforms, but I'm sure that this fact won't be lost on the potential recruits in the feverish contest currently underway.

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Oh they aren't that bad. I have graphical representations of them but I don't have a place to upload the Word Document.

[Sir Alexandreu Davinescu]

I would suggest simplifying the service ribbons to one green-and-white striped ribbon for serving in any armed forces. This will also be somewhat nicer to the Canadian immigrant-soldiers, since they won't be getting red-white-and-blue ribbons.

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Well originally it was an American Service ribbon.

However...Canada went and threw a wrench in the gears *shakes fist in Canada's general direction*

Anyway, while we could consolidate them I thought isolating it per continent (with the exception of Australia which gets lumped in with Europe) would create just a wee little bit of diversity and allow people to show pride in their native lands. The other thing I considered was for people who served in two separate nations' military. I served with two people in the Navy who went on to serve in foreign services (one was French Foreign Legion and the other was Chinese Navy).

However, if a bunch of people agree with S:reu Davis' position, I will amend my proposal. The possibility also remains that we can simply change the North American Service ribbon to Green and white.

[Sir C. M. Siervicül]

I like this proposal! A couple of comments/questions:

1. Have you checked to see whether the ribbon colors you propose are commercially available from online sources? If we can buy these ribbons "off the rack" the chances our servicemembers will actually be able to wear them go way up.

2. I could go either way about changing the North American Service Ribbon to something less U.S.-centric.

3. U.S. Good Conduct Medals are only available for enlisted personnel. Officers are expected to comport themselves like gentlemen, whereas we can only hope that enlisted men won't get into drunken brawls every weekend.

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The medals I have selected are all available commercially EXCEPT for the Talossan Service Ribbon. I am still looking and I may be able to find something similar.

I know that U.S. Good Conducts are only for Enlisted, but since in Talossa we have very few "duties" that can be carried out by folks, I thought it would be best if we just made behaving oneself a medal, everyone would be happy.

[Sir C. M. Siervicül]

timoliv said:

The medals I have selected are all available commercially EXCEPT for the Talossan Service Ribbon. I am still looking and I may be able to find something similar.

Here's a source for red and green ribbon: wholesale-medals.com/ribbon_colors.html

It's harder to find a place that makes ribbons (in colors different from existing U.S. military awards) designed for sliding onto a standard bar mount.

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All of the present ribbon designs are ehh....borrowed, from the Chicago Police Department (who, in turn, borrowed some of them from the U.S. Military). As such, I found a store that has all of the ones I described (minus green and red) ready to be mounted on a standard ribbon bar mount.

[Sir C. M. Siervicül]

timoliv said:

All of the present ribbon designs are ehh....borrowed, from the Chicago Police Department (who, in turn, borrowed some of them from the U.S. Military). As such, I found a store that has all of the ones I described (minus green and red) ready to be mounted on a standard ribbon bar mount.

How convenient! That tip led me to a site which does have a red/green ribbon ready for mounting (U-R216), plus a lot more color options:

www.cfe-tagman.com/ribbonsmore.html

If there are equivalents above for some of the Chicago PD ribbons, we should specify whether the Talossan version has gold braid around the edge (like Chicago PD) or not. The ones without the braid might be cheaper.

Oh, I do have one more suggestion about the Act. I keeping with the conventions of Talossan English, I recommend that you change the title of the bill to the "Military Honours Act," and update other occurrences of honorably/honourably etc.

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In my personal experience, the gold braid around the edges is typically removable. It is a gold frame that the ribbon slides into. Naturally, I would have to purchase a set in order to see if that is the case with these ribbons.

The alternative, of course, is to just use U.S. Military ribbons as many police departments in the U.S. do. Even the Chicago P.D. uses the Bronze Star Ribbon as, something like a physical fitness ribbon or something.

The best part is we should also be able to develop a ribbon checker for our own purposes. This way, a few clicks and anyone can have a graphical version of their awards.

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In taking S:reu Davis' suggestion I changed the colors of the North American Service Ribbon to Green and white. The ribbon I am thinking of using is the Navy/Marine Corps Commendation Medal from the U.S.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navy_Commendation_Medal

Let me know what you guys think.

[Sir C. M. Siervicül]

timoliv said:

In my personal experience, the gold braid around the edges is typically removable. It is a gold frame that the ribbon slides into. Naturally, I would have to purchase a set in order to see if that is the case with these ribbons.

The alternative, of course, is to just use U.S. Military ribbons as many police departments in the U.S. do. Even the Chicago P.D. uses the Bronze Star Ribbon as, something like a physical fitness ribbon or something.

The best part is we should also be able to develop a ribbon checker for our own purposes. This way, a few clicks and anyone can have a graphical version of their awards.

Interesting. In that case, the versions without the gold braid probably would be cheaper. And if the design of a particular ribbon happens to be the same as a U.S. military ribbon, we should definitely specify no braid so that people can use the U.S. version, which is available dirt cheap. I love the ribbon checker idea. The graphical representations of awards would be a nice feature for citizens' individual pages on the web site.

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That is just in my experience, the Navy had very few awards that included the gold braiding. Buying the gold braiding was actually a separate thing. You purchased a ribbon and then you purchased the gold braiding which was sold with devices such as stars, V's, E's and other things that were placed on the ribbon themselves.

Speaking of devices, I have also included authorized devices. These are worn when you earn multiple awards of the same ribbon or Medal. You place the specified device on your ribbons to denote second, third...awards. Might as well write the thing in, eventually someone will be awarded two of the same thing.