Flip Molinar
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Post by Flip Molinar on Jan 2, 2008 12:46:59 GMT -6
I would like to informally formally request a Talossan name. Thanks.
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Sir C. M. Siervicül
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Post by Sir C. M. Siervicül on Jan 2, 2008 13:23:40 GMT -6
I'd be glad to help! Do you know anything about the origin of your surname? From what I've been able to figure out so far, the word mungai can come from any of an extremely diverse group of sources: Kenyan (Gikuyu/Kikuyu), Native American (Chickahominy), or Australian Aborigine.
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Flip Molinar
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Post by Flip Molinar on Jan 2, 2008 13:35:22 GMT -6
I know it is Italian, in my case. Florentine to be more exact. I hope that helps you some at least.
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EM Vürinalt
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jan 2, 2008 13:36:00 GMT -6
I found that Mungai from the Kenyan directly translates to "mumps."
I can't find the site I saw this on again though so I guess it can't be trusted.
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Flip Molinar
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Post by Flip Molinar on Jan 2, 2008 13:41:38 GMT -6
Well thanks for all the help though.
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Sir C. M. Siervicül
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Post by Sir C. M. Siervicül on Jan 2, 2008 13:45:22 GMT -6
I found that Mungai from the Kenyan directly translates to "mumps." Interesting. I found that Ngai is the Gikuyu (the language of the largest tribe in Kenya) name for God, and mu- is a personal prefix (a member of the Gikuyu tribe is Mu-Gikuyu). That's quite a difference!
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Sir C. M. Siervicül
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Post by Sir C. M. Siervicül on Jan 2, 2008 13:48:26 GMT -6
I know it is Italian, in my case. Florentine to be more exact. I hope that helps you some at least. Wow, I was way off. Well, -ai is a common suffix in Florentine/Tuscan surnames, but I haven't found anything on Mungai in particular. Mungo is Italian for the mung bean, and mungere means to milk. So maybe your ancestor was a mung bean farmer or a dairy farmer? I doubt many mung beans were growing in Tuscany in centuries past, though, since the plant is native to India.
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Flip Molinar
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Post by Flip Molinar on Jan 2, 2008 13:51:33 GMT -6
We should do a flow chart of that lol. I'll see what I can find.
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Sir C. M. Siervicül
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Post by Sir C. M. Siervicül on Jan 2, 2008 14:37:51 GMT -6
We should do a flow chart of that lol. I'll see what I can find. One more data point -- munga means nun in Emiliano-Romagnolo, an Italian dialect spoken in some of the areas bordering Tuscany. Which makes me wonder whether Mungai could be a name for someone who lived or worked at or near a convent.
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Flip Molinar
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Post by Flip Molinar on Jan 2, 2008 15:09:44 GMT -6
We should do a flow chart of that lol. I'll see what I can find. One more data point -- munga means nun in Emiliano-Romagnolo, an Italian dialect spoken in some of the areas bordering Tuscany. Which makes me wonder whether Mungai could be a name for someone who lived or worked at or near a convent. I found nothing new, though that is extremely interesting.
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Sir C. M. Siervicül
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Post by Sir C. M. Siervicül on Jan 4, 2008 9:06:46 GMT -6
Eureka. The answer is different from either of the possibilities I floated before. Mungai is a northern Tuscan surname, most common in the northwestern part of the province. But another northern Tuscan surname, Mugnai, is more common, and concentrated in the northeastern part of the province. Inversion of gn as ng is a stereotypical feature of the Western Tuscan dialect of Italian. So, Mungai is the western version of Mugnai, which comes from mugnaio, meaning miller (a classic artisan surname). And your Talossan name would be Flip Molinar.
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Flip Molinar
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Post by Flip Molinar on Jan 4, 2008 13:42:40 GMT -6
Eureka. The answer is different from either of the possibilities I floated before. Mungai is a northern Tuscan surname, most common in the northwestern part of the province. But another northern Tuscan surname, Mugnai, is more common, and concentrated in the northeastern part of the province. Inversion of gn[/i] as ng[/i] is a stereotypical feature of the Western Tuscan dialect of Italian. So, Mungai is the western version of Mugnai, which comes from mugnaio, meaning miller (a classic artisan surname). And your Talossan name would be Flip Molinar.[/quote] Thank you so much and I would be more than happy to have my name officially changed, whenever possible.
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Sir C. M. Siervicül
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Post by Sir C. M. Siervicül on Jan 4, 2008 13:45:13 GMT -6
Thank you so much and I would be more than happy to have my name officially changed, whenever possible. Very well! I will so recommend to the SoS.
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Sir C. M. Siervicül
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Post by Sir C. M. Siervicül on Jan 4, 2008 15:57:25 GMT -6
Alright, your name has been updated on the voter list, and should be updated on the list of citizens on the web site any minute. You can update your Wittenberg display name yourself, by clicking on the "profile" link on the horizontal menu bar near the top of this page, then on "Modify Profile."
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Jan 4, 2008 16:02:04 GMT -6
MinStuff has updated the names translations list to reflect this, as well.
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