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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Sept 23, 2007 7:25:54 GMT -6
Whereas I like the Name Gavárþic'h, I don't exactly like Alexandreu too much, because it's not where my name came from, my name, Alexi, comes from the Russian Alexei which comes from the Greek "Alexius" meaning "helper" or "defender"
Therefore, I ask Sir Cresti to confirm that the word "defender" in Talossan is "Zefençadéir" and ask what the word for "helper" is. Personally, I would kind of like zefençadéir because if I could have a more obscure name like "S:reu Z" which would rival the coolness of "Lord Q"
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Hooligan
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Post by Hooligan on Sept 23, 2007 9:35:21 GMT -6
Aw, I was really liking the Dreu nickname! Hooligan
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Sept 23, 2007 9:41:01 GMT -6
Well... I guess people could still call me "Dreu"... It just doesn't feel right considering that Alexander isn't my name.
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Hooligan
Squirrel King of Arms; Cunstaval to Maricopa
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Post by Hooligan on Sept 23, 2007 9:52:02 GMT -6
True enough, I suppose. I was the guy who (mistakenly) suggested Alexandreu for you, when the Talossan for Alexi (which is also Alexi) is a separate name to that for Alexander. I'll let you work this with the Ladintsch Naziunal from here on (seems like I should adopt that as a formal policy, but I probably won't; helping with name creation is such a kick). :-)
Hooligan
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Sept 23, 2007 11:29:03 GMT -6
I agree... it's fun to help give people's names... even if half the time you're totally wrong (like me). No harm taken Lord Hooligan, maybe I'll keep Alexandreu as my middle name (I don't have a real middle name, but I have a hebrew name which is Abraham Aharon, so whatever) and my name will be:
Zefençadéir Alexandreu Gavárþic'h or Z.A. Gavárþic'h or Mr. Z
I don't care, I kind of like them all. But everyone can still call me "dreu" if they want.
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Sept 23, 2007 11:33:09 GMT -6
Can someone change my name from Alexandreu Gavárþic'h to Zefençadéir Alexandreu Gavárþic'h on KOT.net?
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Sir C. M. Siervicül
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Post by Sir C. M. Siervicül on Sept 23, 2007 14:04:32 GMT -6
Alexi, I'm afraid your latest idea isn't consistent with the rules for Talossan names. Last names are normally translated, but first names are supposed to be recognisable as first names whenever possible. Since Alexi exists as a first name, that's what we ought to use. That's what the existing grammar says, anyways. If you think the rules should be changed, maybe we should take it up with the CÚG. I'm not comfortable with changing them on my own.
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Sept 23, 2007 14:13:21 GMT -6
I kind of like my new name... isn't it the right of every person to just change there name? As far as I'm aware of, in the states of New York and Wisconsin the best way to change your name legally, is just to start using the new name regularly.
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Sept 23, 2007 14:13:41 GMT -6
Also, Lord Hooligan's first name is translated directly...
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Sept 24, 2007 2:19:25 GMT -6
Unsurprisingly, his first name was not already translated. I believe the point here is that yours has already been translated appropriately. Legally speaking, yes, you can change it to whatever you would like. There is a statute that actually covers this, 33RZ16 ( www.kingdomoftalossa.net/index.cgi?lingo=&page=Statute&act=33RZ16). But just be aware that the new name, Zefencadeir, is not your Talossan name or your legal name. Should you run for office in the future, for example, your name on the ballot would have to be Alexandreu.
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Sept 24, 2007 4:58:24 GMT -6
Duely noted Alex will do. BUt wait! it says you have to be a citizen for a month before deciding in 33RZ16, so I can still choose, can't I?
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Post by Sir C. M. Siervicül on Sept 24, 2007 9:04:46 GMT -6
I kind of like my new name... isn't it the right of every person to just change there name? As far as I'm aware of, in the states of New York and Wisconsin the best way to change your name legally, is just to start using the new name regularly. It's true that under the common law, you can change your name by using the new name regularly, consistently, and without intent to defraud. I would be surprised to see someone use that method of name change in Talossa, though. Because a Talossan isn't a character created by a real person who "really" exists somewhere outside of Talossa. A Talossan is a real person. A Talossan name isn't a new and different name to take on for your Talossan activities. It's your real name, just the Talossan equivalent. So if someone were to change their name in Talossa using the common law method, I would expect to see them using that same name (or a translation of it) at work, at school, with their family, etc. Also, Lord Hooligan's first name is translated directly... Some first names don't exist in Talossan, and when that is the case sometimes we need to make exceptions. Lord Hooligan's first name does not exist as a first name in Talossan, and doesn't have a good equivalent in other Romance languages either. But if your first name does exist in Talossan, then that's what your first name is in Talossan. According to the rules as they currently exist. So, for example, if someone named Steven joins Talossa, his first name is Istefan (or Stefan). Steven may originally mean "crown," but his first name is Istefan and not Coronâ in Talossan, because his first name is Steven and not Crown in English. But if he changes his English name to Crown, his Talossan name naturally should be changed to Coronâ.
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Sept 24, 2007 10:47:50 GMT -6
Oh, wait... is the name "Alexi" already a Talossan name?
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Post by Sir C. M. Siervicül on Sept 24, 2007 12:44:12 GMT -6
Oh, wait... is the name "Alexi" already a Talossan name? Basically, yes. It's listed under "Alexis," and the Talossan translation is "Alexi." Alexis and Alexi are basically the same name, meaning defender/protector. Alexander is a closely related name with the addition of the element -ander (man), for the meaning "defender of man." The name of the father of Peter the Great of Russia, Tsar Alexi/Alexei Mikhailovich, is often anglicised as Czar Alexis Michealovi(t)ch. If you have a preferred nickname, such as Zefençadéir or Dreu, one thing you could do is have that listed on the official citizen list in parentheses, so people know what you like to be called by. Capt. Preston does that -- his legal first name is Mark, but he goes by Mick, so his entry on the citizen list has Mick in parentheses.
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Sept 24, 2007 14:08:44 GMT -6
Okay, now I understand could someone list me as "Alexandreu (Dreu) Gavárþic'h?"
However, should I ever become a knight or baron, I would want to be referred to as "Sir Z" or "Lord Z" (Mostly because I think those two names sound really cool)
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