Lüc da Schir
Senator for Benito
If Italy wins a Six Nations match I will join the Zouaves
Posts: 4,125
Talossan Since: 3-21-2012
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Post by Lüc da Schir on Dec 4, 2019 5:42:48 GMT -6
Official notice that RTWittenberg/Witt XIV now has a backup function that has been made available to the Royal Archivist. There now are permanent (ie, never-deleted) weekly backups of all database content (ie, everything but uploaded files).
To make us even more failure-proof I am now looking at also implementing nightly, non-permanent backups, so that every day a backup of Witt up to the previous day is always available. This would not be meant for archiving, though, but for quickly restoring Witt in case of an outage.
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Lüc da Schir
Senator for Benito
If Italy wins a Six Nations match I will join the Zouaves
Posts: 4,125
Talossan Since: 3-21-2012
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Post by Lüc da Schir on Dec 4, 2019 5:45:03 GMT -6
It is now officially disabled, Why? What is the objection to making sure every account has at least been checked by someone? I am still checking new accounts and tagging here all new registrants, but they don't require my approval in order to post. This will be changed once the switch is complete. This seems completely sensible to me as I don't want to stay up late to approve profiles ASAP so people don't think New Witt doesn't work or something.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Dec 4, 2019 8:25:33 GMT -6
It's good to see the basic Wittiquette scheme is still in place: "You agree, through your use of this forum, that you will not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, adult material, or otherwise in violation of any International or United States Federal law. You also agree not to post any copyrighted material unless you own the copyright or you have written consent from the owner of the copyrighted material. Spam, flooding, advertisements, chain letters, pyramid schemes, and solicitations are also forbidden on this forum."
We should probably add something about respecting the use of Talossan-language names.
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Lüc da Schir
Senator for Benito
If Italy wins a Six Nations match I will join the Zouaves
Posts: 4,125
Talossan Since: 3-21-2012
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Post by Lüc da Schir on Dec 4, 2019 9:25:30 GMT -6
It's good to see the basic Wittiquette scheme is still in place: "You agree, through your use of this forum, that you will not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, adult material, or otherwise in violation of any International or United States Federal law. You also agree not to post any copyrighted material unless you own the copyright or you have written consent from the owner of the copyrighted material. Spam, flooding, advertisements, chain letters, pyramid schemes, and solicitations are also forbidden on this forum." We should probably add something about respecting the use of Talossan-language names. It's up to the Chancery and Glüc da Dhi to set those policies. For the moment, the default messages are still in place.
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Ián Tamorán S.H.
Chief Justice of the Uppermost Court
Proud Philosopher of Talossa
Posts: 1,401
Talossan Since: 9-27-2010
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Post by Ián Tamorán S.H. on Dec 6, 2019 9:59:04 GMT -6
... or otherwise in violation of any International or United States Federal law. You also agree not to post any copyrighted material unless you own the copyright or you have written consent from the owner of the copyrighted material.... As a Talossan lawyer (of sorts), I am rubbing my hands in glee here. "international OR United States Federal Law"? That is going to make some decision very hard indeed - why, for example, should I as a Talossan citizen in Europe have to obey USA law - indeed, why should I even be expected to know it? And copyright... USA copyright? Copyright in the country of the copyright's owner? Canadian law? European Union copyright laws or recommendations? The laws of Tuvalu? The permutations are (nearly) endless, and forever changing. I believe that elsewhere, elsewhen I mentioned a pair of 18 year old, same-sex lovers having a picnic on the Isle of Cezembre drinking fine wine and singing songs by Gershwin - not being in conflict of any *local* law - and making a short video their picnic... but *because of a narrow interpretation of some USA law* being unable to post that video, or even (heaven help us!) to discuss it within Talossan bounds. There are a lot of Talossan citizens who are also citizens of the USA: but there are many that are not. The narrow USA view of the world is just that - narrow.
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Dame Litz Cjantscheir, UrN
Puisne Justice; Chancellor of the Royal Talossan Bar; Cunstaval to Florencia
Dame & Former Seneschal
Posts: 1,157
Talossan Since: 4-5-2010
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
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Post by Dame Litz Cjantscheir, UrN on Dec 6, 2019 12:41:53 GMT -6
... or otherwise in violation of any International or United States Federal law. You also agree not to post any copyrighted material unless you own the copyright or you have written consent from the owner of the copyrighted material.... As a Talossan lawyer (of sorts), I am rubbing my hands in glee here. "international OR United States Federal Law"? That is going to make some decision very hard indeed - why, for example, should I as a Talossan citizen in Europe have to obey USA law - indeed, why should I even be expected to know it? And copyright... USA copyright? Copyright in the country of the copyright's owner? Canadian law? European Union copyright laws or recommendations? The laws of Tuvalu? The permutations are (nearly) endless, and forever changing. I believe that elsewhere, elsewhen I mentioned a pair of 18 year old, same-sex lovers having a picnic on the Isle of Cezembre drinking fine wine and singing songs by Gershwin - not being in conflict of any *local* law - and making a short video their picnic... but *because of a narrow interpretation of some USA law* being unable to post that video, or even (heaven help us!) to discuss it within Talossan bounds. There are a lot of Talossan citizens who are also citizens of the USA: but there are many that are not. The narrow USA view of the world is just that - narrow. International Copyright Laws are covered extensively in ca. 26 international treaties, which are currently administered by the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO), an agency of the United Nations, with 192 member states. One treaty of interest is the Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works which has 177 states that are parties to it (more if you consider that since almost all nations are members of the World Trade Organization, the Agreement on Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights requires non-members to accept almost all of the conditions of the Berne Convention) and the case of Kernel Records Oy v. Mosley, Case No. 11-12769 (11th Cir., Sept. 14, 2012), where a federal district court in Florida held that publication of a work on the Internet constitutes simultaneous publication everywhere in the world, including the United States, requiring that the work be deemed a “United States work”, thus "a work created outside of the United States, uploaded in Australia and owned by a company registered in Finland was nonetheless a U.S. work by virtue of its being published online".
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Post by Magniloqueu Épiqeu da Lhiun on Dec 6, 2019 14:41:58 GMT -6
As a Talossan lawyer (of sorts), I am rubbing my hands in glee here. "international OR United States Federal Law"? That is going to make some decision very hard indeed - why, for example, should I as a Talossan citizen in Europe have to obey USA law - indeed, why should I even be expected to know it? And copyright... USA copyright? Copyright in the country of the copyright's owner? Canadian law? European Union copyright laws or recommendations? The laws of Tuvalu? The permutations are (nearly) endless, and forever changing. I believe that elsewhere, elsewhen I mentioned a pair of 18 year old, same-sex lovers having a picnic on the Isle of Cezembre drinking fine wine and singing songs by Gershwin - not being in conflict of any *local* law - and making a short video their picnic... but *because of a narrow interpretation of some USA law* being unable to post that video, or even (heaven help us!) to discuss it within Talossan bounds. There are a lot of Talossan citizens who are also citizens of the USA: but there are many that are not. The narrow USA view of the world is just that - narrow. International Copyright Laws are covered extensively in ca. 26 international treaties, which are currently administered by the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO), an agency of the United Nations, with 192 member states. One treaty of interest is the Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works which has 177 states that are parties to it (more if you consider that since almost all nations are members of the World Trade Organization, the Agreement on Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights requires non-members to accept almost all of the conditions of the Berne Convention) and the case of Kernel Records Oy v. Mosley, Case No. 11-12769 (11th Cir., Sept. 14, 2012), where a federal district court in Florida held that publication of a work on the Internet constitutes simultaneous publication everywhere in the world, including the United States, requiring that the work be deemed a “United States work”, thus "a work created outside of the United States, uploaded in Australia and owned by a company registered in Finland was nonetheless a U.S. work by virtue of its being published online". And you know what? Talossa can come to an understanding that this law does not actually apply to Talossa; and I find it quite ridiculous to argue that every country’s law apply simultaneously.
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Ián Tamorán S.H.
Chief Justice of the Uppermost Court
Proud Philosopher of Talossa
Posts: 1,401
Talossan Since: 9-27-2010
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Post by Ián Tamorán S.H. on Dec 7, 2019 11:02:40 GMT -6
International Copyright Laws are covered extensively in ca. 26 international treaties, which are currently administered by the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO), an agency of the United Nations, with 192 member states. One treaty of interest is the Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works which has 177 states that are parties to it (more if you consider that since almost all nations are members of the World Trade Organization, the Agreement on Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights requires non-members to accept almost all of the conditions of the Berne Convention) and the case of Kernel Records Oy v. Mosley, Case No. 11-12769 (11th Cir., Sept. 14, 2012), where a federal district court in Florida held that publication of a work on the Internet constitutes simultaneous publication everywhere in the world, including the United States, requiring that the work be deemed a “United States work”, thus "a work created outside of the United States, uploaded in Australia and owned by a company registered in Finland was nonetheless a U.S. work by virtue of its being published online". And you know what? Talossa can come to an understanding that this law does not actually apply to Talossa; and I find it quite ridiculous to argue that every country’s law apply simultaneously. I thank my learned legal colleague Dame Litz Cjantscheir, UrN for her referring us to what may well be considered to be a relevant case. Taking off (for the moment) any legal wig I might be wearing, it is clear that the court in Florida was speaking, in the real world, absolute twaddle. Putting my Talossan legal wig back on, however, I observe that there are many points of Natural Justice and legal jurisdiction which are relevant here. I believe that Talossa is neither a signatory to the Berne Convention, nor a member of the WTO. Thus it is not yet clear (to me) to which internationally mandated rules Talossa is subject, in this regard. No state ('A') may arbitrarily claim jurisdiction over the right of any other state ('B') within that other state's borders, except (possibly - and I need to be advised here) in the event of war crimes and atrocities. Copyright does not come within that category. We are state 'B' and the USA is state 'A' here. There are good contradictory examples which may serve to counteract the Florida court's ruling: one is IMSLP, which is based in Canada, and states that works published on its website are published in Canada, and must not fall foul of the copyright legislation in Canada. IMSLP also point out that works downloaded from IMSLP must be treated at the point of download according to the copyright laws local to the point of download. I personally have uploaded several pieces of music to IMSLP: some of them were written by me - I own the copyright in all countries - and I have stated, in the publication, which rights I retain, and which I waive. I have uploaded music which is out of copyright in all countries (as far as I know - composers that died before 1900 are alright, yes?), so those uploads are fine. But I have also uploaded music which would be copyright in the USA but is not copyright in either Canada (IMSLP home) or the UK (from where the music was both written and uploaded). Surely, in reality (note: reality, not law) works in that category cannot be taken to be subject to USA law? Are those works, under UK law and according to UK law, necessarily published in the USA in these circumstances? I am in no way at all as informed of UK law as (we all know) our learned colleague Dame Litz Cjantscheir, UrN certainly is, and I would value her advice. Once more taking off my legal wig, I note that (i) Talossa is not part of the USA, (ii) Talossa has its own Laws and legal system, and cedes no rights to any other nation except where that is explicitly stated in our Laws, (iii) Talossa may choose a definition of copyright that suits Talossa, and that definition may or may not be similar to that used in any other nation.
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Amada Merþedes
Citizen of Talossa
Dead-Talossan-Name: Alexandreu Regeu
Posts: 249
Talossan Since: 26th of March, 2019
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Post by Amada Merþedes on Dec 8, 2019 9:14:37 GMT -6
I'll sign up s0n. Would it be possible for me to have a subdomain of my website as an alternate url? i just need the IP for the A record, and someone to add my domain as trusted in the web server config.
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Post by Eðo Grischun on Dec 8, 2019 10:16:00 GMT -6
I'll sign up s0n. Would it be possible for me to have a subdomain of my website as an alternate url? i just need the IP for the A record, and someone to add my domain as trusted in the web server config. Do you mean having your own subdomain address pointing to the new Witt forums? Why? And, what is the web address you want to use?
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Amada Merþedes
Citizen of Talossa
Dead-Talossan-Name: Alexandreu Regeu
Posts: 249
Talossan Since: 26th of March, 2019
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Post by Amada Merþedes on Dec 8, 2019 10:16:37 GMT -6
And my mail server did not receive the verification mail. Yay! I had a look on the log on my end. Nothing. Username: amada, email: talossa@amygrace.tk
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Amada Merþedes
Citizen of Talossa
Dead-Talossan-Name: Alexandreu Regeu
Posts: 249
Talossan Since: 26th of March, 2019
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Post by Amada Merþedes on Dec 8, 2019 10:22:05 GMT -6
I'll sign up s0n. Would it be possible for me to have a subdomain of my website as an alternate url? i just need the IP for the A record, and someone to add my domain as trusted in the web server config. Do you mean having your own subdomain address pointing to the new Witt forums? Why? And, what is the web address you want to use? Basically talossa.com is blocked at school, but amygrace.tk (my domain) is not. I was thinking if I setup witt.amygrace.tk to point to your server I would then be able to look during my 3 hours worth of breaks in the day I have the a record setup, I got it from <dig>ging it up from wittenberg.talossa.com. I just need the apache.conf to be updated or whatever to allow my domain to access it. It currently takes me to an error page.
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Amada Merþedes
Citizen of Talossa
Dead-Talossan-Name: Alexandreu Regeu
Posts: 249
Talossan Since: 26th of March, 2019
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Post by Amada Merþedes on Dec 8, 2019 10:35:41 GMT -6
Just made a new account . @amadam
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Post by Eðo Grischun on Dec 8, 2019 10:43:30 GMT -6
Do you mean having your own subdomain address pointing to the new Witt forums? Why? And, what is the web address you want to use? Basically talossa.com is blocked at school, but amygrace.tk (my domain) is not. I was thinking if I setup witt.amygrace.tk to point to your server I would then be able to look during my 3 hours worth of breaks in the day I have the a record setup, I got it from <dig>ging it up from wittenberg.talossa.com. I just need the apache.conf to be updated or whatever to allow my domain to access it. It currently takes me to an error page. Makes sense. Luc can probably let you know if it can be done. Also, have I missed something somewhere? How come you are not going by Alex Regue anymore? You've gone from A. King to A. (Amy?) Merthedes?
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Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial
Batetz las maes, perf. —— Freelance glheþineir (I only accept Worthless Internet Points™ as payment)
Posts: 448
Talossan Since: May 12, 2014
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Post by Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on Dec 8, 2019 10:46:48 GMT -6
Also, have I missed something somewhere? How come you are not going by Alex Regue anymore? You've gone from A. King to A. (Amy?) Merthedes? She's trans: link
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