Glüc da Dhi
Secretary of State
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Talossan Since: 5-14-2009
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Jul 11, 2012 13:30:41 GMT -6
Whereas according to the orglaw, Article VIII, Section 5, "Each MC will represent, for ceremonial purposes, a particular geographical "constituency." The exact procedure will be determined by law. ", and
Whereas we don't do that, now
Therefore Article VIII, Section 5 of the Organic Law is hereby repealed.
Uréu q'estadra sa:
Glüc da Dhi (Senator, Cézembre)
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Flip Molinar
Talossan since 1-1-2008
Proud Talossan
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Post by Flip Molinar on Jul 11, 2012 13:49:06 GMT -6
I'm in support of this amendment!
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Eiric Biançéu
Cras perveniat ad astra via
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Talossan Since: 11-7-2011
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Post by Eiric Biançéu on Jul 11, 2012 17:05:50 GMT -6
I do like this one.
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Lüc da Schir
Senator for Benito
If Italy wins a Six Nations match I will join the Zouaves
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Talossan Since: 3-21-2012
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Post by Lüc da Schir on Jul 12, 2012 1:36:22 GMT -6
I haven't understood a word. Indeed.
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Post by Munditenens Tresplet on Jul 12, 2012 12:48:43 GMT -6
As the recently appointed Governor of Pengöpäts, I hereby declare my ceremonial representation of Pengöpäts as an MC in the 44th Cosa, until such time as Pengöpäts is afforded proper representation in our Senäts. Therefore, at this time and under these circumstances, I oppose this amendment.
Munditenens Tresplet
Governor of Pengöpäts
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Ryan Hammond
Talossan since 7-12-2012
Citizen of Talossa
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Post by Ryan Hammond on Jul 12, 2012 13:00:33 GMT -6
We don't do it BUT[/i], we could make a law so we could?
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Post by Béneditsch Ardpresteir, O.SPM. on Jul 12, 2012 13:24:08 GMT -6
[/i], we could make a law so we could?[/quote] The Law says we must, so why not frame a regulation to make it effective? |
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
Capitán of the Zouaves
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Jul 12, 2012 13:30:16 GMT -6
How about they represent the land that makes up their current Province?
As a Senator, I represented M-M. Why not say that if I am a MC, I am a MC for M-M ?
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Post by Eðo Grischun on Jul 12, 2012 14:23:03 GMT -6
Is this part of a larger sneaky plan to force members to vote along party lines? Sounds like someone has anticipated my argument that a party X member from province D should have the freedom to vote per his constituents wishes. This act would abolish constituencies and, well, my argument!  |
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Glüc da Dhi
Secretary of State
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Jul 12, 2012 14:42:15 GMT -6
I wouldnt buy that argument anyway, as Mc's are still not elected by the provinces, but by everyone.  |
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
Capitán of the Zouaves
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Jul 12, 2012 17:34:19 GMT -6
It's for "ceremonial purposes" anyway, so why repeal it?
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Glüc da Dhi
Secretary of State
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Talossan Since: 5-14-2009
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Jul 12, 2012 17:56:35 GMT -6
Well, the amendment is to adapt the orglaw to the reality. Actually passing a bill to determine the procedure is also an option. To me it doesnt really matter. I dont see a reason why MC's would need to represent a geographical area as they are appointed by parties and parties are elected by everyone , not just by the citizens of one province or canton or township.
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Jul 13, 2012 3:32:01 GMT -6
Especially since this could lead to one province having a greater/lesser representation in the Cosa than other provinces. I wholeheartedly support this amendment.
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Owen Edwards
Puisne Justice
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Post by Owen Edwards on Jul 16, 2012 13:59:28 GMT -6
I would support this Amendment.
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Hooligan
Squirrel King of Arms; Cunstaval to Maricopa
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Post by Hooligan on Jul 16, 2012 14:03:02 GMT -6
Historically (until the Provincial Unshackling Amendment was passed in 2007, I believe), the Cosa was actually elected by province, not nationally. The 200 seats of the Cosa were divided by province before being divided by party. This was, in the end, rather meaningless, though, personnel-wise, since the actual human beans were given seats by the national party leader, and need not have any connection to any given province from whence those seats came (same as now). What that system did do, though, was skew (because of compounded rounding first in what was then seven provinces, and then in each province between the various parties) the seats awarded to the parties so that they were not as accurate a reflection of their true percentage-of-support as they should be.
That is neither here nor there, just a historical curiosity.
As for the ceremonial MC geography thing, I'm in favour of trashing it.
Hool
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