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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Apr 27, 2013 4:24:12 GMT -6
Esteemed Members of the Cosa,
Here is a short list of rules which I would like for all of us to follow, if you would be so kind. The intention behind them is that we may conduct our business with the civility and dignity which the electorate expects of us. So here we are:
1. MCs must (tediously) refer their comments to the Túischac'h (as is done when posing a Terpelaziun) e.g. Estimat Segnor Túischac'h dal Cosa, .... or Estimat S:reu Tuischac'h.
2. When commenting or posting, comment and post with civility and dignity, referring to other MCs as "esteemed member" or "estimat (m)/estimada (f) membreu".
3. Only MCs may comment in this chamber unless invited to do so by the Túischac'h e.g. in response to a Terpelaziun.
4. A discussion/post pertaining to the implementation, following, or addition to the rules set out here should include the words "Point of Order" prior to the post.
I thank you, esteemed members, and I hope you find these rules to be acceptable. If you do not, then I urge you to issue a Point of Order, where we can discuss the rules further.
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Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă
Puisne (Associate) Justice of the Uppermost Court
Fraichetz dels punts, es non dels mürs
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Post by Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă on Apr 27, 2013 15:26:56 GMT -6
Estimat S:reu Tuischac'h es Estimeschti Membreux, a point of order:
I think these procedural rules are well thought out. I wonder if el Tuischac'h should consider a formalized process creation of further procedural rules (such as a rules committee).
Regards,
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Apr 27, 2013 16:04:08 GMT -6
Estimat S:reu Tuischac'h es Estimats Membreus, a point of order: I think these procedural rules are well thought out. I wonder if el Tuischac'h should consider a formalized process creation of further procedural rules (such as a rules committee). Regards, Estimat Membreu, I am keen to avoid an autocratic tenure as el Tuischac'h dal Cosa and a formalised process whereby esteemed Members of the Cosa can decide for themselves if an additional rule should be added is, without a doubt, a good idea. My proposal is that a committee containing a representative from each party represented in the Cosa shall meet to approve or reject any proposed additions or amendments to the existing rules of our chamber. Would the Right Honourable Member find this an acceptable solution?
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Post by Iustì Carlüs Canun on Apr 27, 2013 16:22:40 GMT -6
*shouting from the corridor*
Estimat S:r Túischac'h es estimeschti membreux: Point of nitpicking: I would point out that 1) the plural of membreu is membreux, 2) estimada membreu should be used for female members and 3) estimescu membreu (pl. estimeschti membreux) should be used in gender-neutral and mixed-gender situations, respectively.
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Apr 27, 2013 16:35:56 GMT -6
Estimat S:r Túischac'h es estimeschti membreux: Point of nitpicking: I would point out that 1) the plural of membreu is membreux, 2) estimada membreu should be used for female members and 3) estimescu membreu (pl. estimeschti membreux) should be used in gender-neutral and mixed-gender situations, respectively. Estimada voce zisincorporada, Thank you for your interjection!
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Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă
Puisne (Associate) Justice of the Uppermost Court
Fraichetz dels punts, es non dels mürs
Posts: 4,063
Talossan Since: 9-23-2012
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Post by Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă on Apr 27, 2013 17:11:04 GMT -6
Estimat S:reu Tuischac'h es Estimats Membreus, a point of order: I think these procedural rules are well thought out. I wonder if el Tuischac'h should consider a formalized process creation of further procedural rules (such as a rules committee). Regards, Estimat Membreu, I am keen to avoid an autocratic tenure as el Tuischac'h dal Cosa and a formalised process whereby esteemed Members of the Cosa can decide for themselves if an additional rule should be added is, without a doubt, a good idea. My proposal is that a committee containing a representative from each party represented in the Cosa shall meet to approve or reject any proposed additions or amendments to the existing rules of our chamber. Would the Right Honourable Member find this an acceptable solution? Estimat S:r Túischac'h, I think we are on to something and I agree with the Honorable Túischac'h. As such, the RUMP appoints the Seneschal as its representative on the rules committee and awaits the formation of the remainder of the committee.
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Apr 27, 2013 17:32:05 GMT -6
Estimeschti Membreux, I hereby appoint the esteemed Miestrâ Schivâ as the ZRT's representative on this committee.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Apr 28, 2013 4:40:07 GMT -6
I strenuously object to a committee that can set rules that does not defer to the democratic will of the people, at least proportionately. There are a half-dozen smaller parties, whose votes on a committee that can determine the manner in which discussion is held and accordingly the way in which bills are drafted. Why does the LPR have equal representation on such a committee with the RUMP?
I further object to this segregation of debate, and I immediately invite any member of the government or Senator who wishes to comment on an issue of policy to speak whenever they please.
I further object to the aping of Republic governmental discourse by the new Tuischac'h, who is - in my opinion - reshaping the terms of discussion to mimic the Republic rather than for the purposes of easier debate.
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Apr 28, 2013 4:51:28 GMT -6
Esteemed Member,
Bills are drafter in the same way as they have always been, this pertains only to the discussion among MCs alone concerning a bill. I'm also taken aback by your last paragraph. I'm setting down some rules so that we can communicate with civility and dignity. The similarity between these rules and those of the Chamber of Deputies are purely the way in which I'd like MCs to address each other. If you want to learn more about why I'm doing this, then I'd like to invite you to chat with me on Gtalk, but as it stands you're making some pretty big assumptions.
Regarding deciding how the rules are set, mine was only a suggestion and if you have a better one then by all means present it. They are the private rules of the Cosa concerning the manner by which we discuss certain pieces of legislation, and where any Cosa Committees conduct their business. The Hopper will still exist, and the way in which we vote and debate outside of the Cosa will remain unchanged.
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Lüc da Schir
Senator for Benito
If Italy wins a Six Nations match I will join the Zouaves
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Post by Lüc da Schir on Apr 28, 2013 8:38:59 GMT -6
Estimat voce zisincorporada, Estimat S:reu Tuischac'h: "Estimada".
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Apr 28, 2013 8:44:17 GMT -6
Estimat voce zisincorporada, Estimat S:reu Tuischac'h: "Estimada". Estimat Membreu,
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Post by D. N. Vercáriâ on Apr 30, 2013 3:01:22 GMT -6
Ah, the proverbial immaculate behaviour of the Tuischac'h. ;D
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Owen Edwards
Puisne Justice
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Post by Owen Edwards on Apr 30, 2013 12:54:24 GMT -6
I'll sit on any such Committee.
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Post by D. N. Vercáriâ on Apr 30, 2013 13:43:21 GMT -6
Esteemed fellow colleagues of all political convictions, I feel like someone has to take care of keeping this set of rules down to a minimum that will easily be remembered, so count me in.
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Apr 30, 2013 14:34:26 GMT -6
Esteemed members,
Wicked-sick! I eagerly await responses from the other parties.
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