ZRT Campaign Underway

[Eðo Grischun]

As much as I want to just ignore you, I need to point out, once again, how wrong you are.

The strong personalised antipathy does seem to suggest that my criticism - that the other opposition parties are not actually "opposition" parties because they don't put a non-RUMP Seneschál as a high priority - is hitting something of a nerve.

1) Nowhere has the CSPP said this. Another twisted lie from Shiva's ZRT. We do indeed put a non-RUMP PM as a high priority. We also put a non-ZRT PM as an equally high priority. The CSPP are aiming for a majority. The Progressives always have.

What we said was 'we don't rule out ANY coalition'. This is secondary to winning a majority though.

2) The only nerve your hitting is the one that reacts to your fabrications.

we seem to be agreed here that if you want to make sure that the next Seneschál is not from the RUMP, then a ZRT vote is the only way to ensure this.

Listen, for the last time, a vote for the CSPP is not a vote for a RUMP-PROP. Saying otherwise over and over won't make it true. A vote for the CSPP is a vote for a CSPP administration. Again, we are aiming for a majority. Seems to me that the ZRT does not have the same ambitions. It seems that you think that you only have a chance of governance by being propped up yourself by the MRPT and/or CSPP. It's good that your being explicit about this before the election.

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

Well, despite the fact that the CSProgs seem to have declared the ZRT to be A Threat To Talossa (ah, takes me back to the good ol' days of King Robert I), I would happily support a CSProg-led government if it was the best option to exclude the RUMP. Even be part of a coalition, if Eðo can stand the stench of Defencism in his cabinet.

It's sad, though, that the idea of "an agreed platform of the Opposition" hasn't even been discussed by either ModRads or CSProg leaders. The ModRads have said that platform enactment is more important than who's in the coalition, which is a valid position; but at the moment I couldn't actually see what such an agreed platform would include. It seems that there will not be a united opposition to the RUMP this time, which will at least give the voters a few clear choices. Perhaps we can make it happen next time.

[Eðo Grischun]

Jun 4, 2012 17:16:39 GMT -6 Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN said:

Well, despite the fact that the CSProgs seem to have declared the ZRT to be A Threat To Talossa (ah, takes me back to the good ol' days of King Robert I), I would happily support a CSProg-led government if it was the best option to exclude the RUMP. Even be part of a coalition, if Eðo can stand the stench of Defencism in his cabinet.

It's sad, though, that the idea of "an agreed platform of the Opposition" hasn't even been discussed by either ModRads or CSProg leaders. The ModRads have said that platform enactment is more important than who's in the coalition, which is a valid position; but at the moment I couldn't actually see what such an agreed platform would include. It seems that there will not be a united opposition to the RUMP this time, which will at least give the voters a few clear choices. Perhaps we can make it happen next time.

The CSPP has not ruled out any coalition and will only enter into coalition negotiations AFTER the election.

[Glüc da Dhi]

And if everyone supports The More Reasonable Deadline Amendment, we will have enough time to fight again after the elections

[Sarac'h Txilvertescu]

Please tell me that this isn't what politics in the Republic was like. Cause this is nasty. Does the ZRT have anything to offer besides an abrasive loudmouth with delusions of grandeur?

[Audrada Rôibeardét]

No, politics in the Republic were easy. I once won an election with the campaign slogan of 'Don't Vote For Me.' True story. ;D

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

Jun 4, 2012 21:13:23 GMT -6 Sarac'h Txilvertescu said:

Does the ZRT have anything to offer besides an abrasive loudmouth with delusions of grandeur?

Hey! Take that back and apologise to Carlüs. He's not that bad.

But seriously... to quote from Robert Graves, "let all the poisons in the mud hatch out". If some Talossans really think that other Talossans are "revolting" and would endanger "the safety of the Kingdom" if they were in power, best that they say so rather than hide behind false politeness. It's nothing I'm not used to (probably less hurtful than being called "petty petty petty" by the APT leader). Certainly I don't have that opinion of any Talossan, but somehow I'm the abrasive, loud-mouthed, grandiose one.

[Sarac'h Txilvertescu]

You paint yourself as some kinda martyr. A lightning rod, etc. I'm sorry, but the ZRT has managed to lose my vote. I liked the manifesto but its getting absurd.

I don't see how the other opposition parties have thrown in the towel aside from your insistence that they have. Like the Bush administration. Repeat something until it becomes true.

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

Well, all I ever argued was that the ZRT are the only party who have excluded the idea of supporting another RUMP seneschál after the election, and it is my opinion that that makes us the only "opposition" party in the technical terms of it. If people take this as a terrible insult and are prepared to change their vote to teach me a lesson, then so be it.

[Munditenens Tresplet]

I personally welcome the ZRT, as a RUMP-er, and recognize that the more parties Talossa has, the better representation Talossans receive.

In my ongoing effort to find something in each party's manifesto/platform that I agree with and will support in the next Cosa, I stumbled across this:

A Talossan Legal Code Act would also be implemented in order to codify the Statutory Law into a format that is both easily referred to and ‘articles’ easily located. Not all Talossans have the liberty of time to spend trawling through the legal jungle that constitutes the Statutory Law; this can be solved by formatting the Statutory Law in ‘Sections’ and ‘Articles’.

I do agree and support this interesting idea, and while I feel that it could be dealt with by simply consulting with the Scribe, I would support an act such as this (depending on what exactly was in its final form).

I look forward to working with the ZRT in the 44th Cosa!

Dien

[Eiric S. Börnatfiglheu]

By way of my capacity as Spokesman for Culture, I would like to trot out a potential project of extreme cultural significance from a ZRT-steered Ministry of Culture (in combination with the Ministry of Stuff... since I have the computer knowledge of a rutabaga):

The Virtual Haxh! Talossa is Milwaukee (well, part of it)... and our homeland lays beyond the reach of a large number of our citizens. To try and ameliorate this, the culture portfolio of the ZRT proposes compiling photos of Talossan landmarks, sounds, and other elements to help try and connect our people to their Talossan homeland.

[Hooligan]

Jun 5, 2012 7:56:26 GMT -6 Eiric S. Börnatfiglheu said:

By way of my capacity as Spokesman for Culture, I would like to trot out a potential project of extreme cultural significance from a ZRT-steered Ministry of Culture (in combination with the Ministry of Stuff... since I have the computer knowledge of a rutabaga):

The Virtual Haxh! Talossa is Milwaukee (well, part of it)... and our homeland lays beyond the reach of a large number of our citizens. To try and ameliorate this, the culture portfolio of the ZRT proposes compiling photos of Talossan landmarks, sounds, and other elements to help try and connect our people to their Talossan homeland.

This would only be a continuation of a long-running RUMP Ministry of Culture initiative.

...and there's something ELSE coming too...something big....next week.....

Hool

[Eiric S. Börnatfiglheu]

Jun 7, 2012 14:18:32 GMT -6 Hooligan said:

Jun 5, 2012 7:56:26 GMT -6 Eiric S. Börnatfiglheu said:

By way of my capacity as Spokesman for Culture, I would like to trot out a potential project of extreme cultural significance from a ZRT-steered Ministry of Culture (in combination with the Ministry of Stuff... since I have the computer knowledge of a rutabaga):

The Virtual Haxh! Talossa is Milwaukee (well, part of it)... and our homeland lays beyond the reach of a large number of our citizens. To try and ameliorate this, the culture portfolio of the ZRT proposes compiling photos of Talossan landmarks, sounds, and other elements to help try and connect our people to their Talossan homeland.

This would only be a continuation of a long-running RUMP Ministry of Culture initiative.

...and there's something ELSE coming too...something big....next week.....

Hool

So I should expect to see it in.... September?

[C. Carlüs Xheraltescù]

As I understand it, the RUMP has been in government for quite some time now. What I'd like to know is why they've waited so long (and just before an election) until making some noticeable cultural contributions.

[Ceváglh Scurznicol]

Things take time to come out of a RUMP, you know, especially if a diet’s fibre content is low. ;D