Talossan Keyboard Layout for PC and Mac

[D. N. Vercáriâ]

¡LOL, if our mythical Founder was still around, I'd say hide it before he finds it! He pumped every phoneme he could find into ár glhetg zilêct, and might do that with punctuation marks, too. ¿Wouldn't he?

[Hooligan]

Ián --

Yes, we probably should have named it "for the US keyboard user", huh? :-) As I've told Deet, if either of you (or anyone) have any ideas for a Talossan adaptation of the keyboard you presently use (German, Swedish, etc.), let me know. Maybe what we want is a library of different keyboards, adapted to the users of each other international keyboard, and I'd be happy to help put one together.

Hool

[Istefan Perþonest]

Having made a minor hobby of developing variant keyboard layouts for Windows and posting them to the Web (at keyboards.jargon-file.org ), I have dashed off a variant US layout that supports Talossan orthography.

It is not, properly speaking, a Talossan layout; it's a US English layout that, through the AltGR key, supports Talossan characters and combining diacritical marks. It's the last actual keyboard on the page linked above; a direct link to the zipped installation files is keyboards.jargon-file.org/usengtal.zip.

EDIT: Note well, the version of the keyboard previously uploaded was missing, of all things, the vital ̈ diacrictic. This has been fixed in the current version.

[Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă]

The Mac version doesn't seem to work under the newest version of OSX.

[Munditenens Tresplet]

Sept 21, 2012 11:27:10 GMT -6 Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă said:

The Mac version doesn't seem to work under the newest version of OSX.

Tell me what problems you are having with it and I'll make an updated version.

[Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă]

I follow the instructions to install it, but when I go to keyboard settings, the layout does not show up at all as a choice.

[Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă]

Never mind, I got the keyboard layout working (apparently there is more than one place to install the file)..
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-Txec

[Munditenens Tresplet]

Sept 21, 2012 19:29:35 GMT -6 Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă said:

Never mind, I got the keyboard layout working (apparently there is more than one place to install the file)..
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-Txec

Could you PM me with exactly where you put everything/how you got it working? I don't have Mountain Lion myself so I can't test it, and I would love to have this info to update the instructions in the install file.

[Mic'háglh del Avercül]

On the Mac OS, the US Extended and Irish Extended keyboards server Talossan just fine.

[Munditenens Tresplet]

Dec 1, 2012 4:52:43 GMT -6 Mic'háglh del Avercül said:

On the Mac OS, the US Extended and Irish Extended keyboards server Talossan just fine.

This is true, however, it is possible that many keyboards overlap characters. The Talossan Keyboard is the only one that was specifically designed for this language in mind.

Don't knock it until you try it.

[Mic'háglh del Avercül]

Well, the Irish Extended keyboard serves my needs for many languages, so I don't need to shift. But I'd say that the version you give at the top of this thread would be very UNsuitable for Mac users, in terms of where it places much of the punctuation.

[Munditenens Tresplet]

Dec 4, 2012 4:41:54 GMT -6 Mic'háglh del Avercül said:

Well, the Irish Extended keyboard serves my needs for many languages, so I don't need to shift. But I'd say that the version you give at the top of this thread would be very UNsuitable for Mac users, in terms of where it places much of the punctuation.

Not sure what you mean here. I'm a Mac user, and I can type with this keyboard layout just fine for both normal and Talossan use. The punctuation is all in the same normal places; ALT-keys only open up options for different types of punctuation.

[Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă]

Dec 4, 2012 5:34:09 GMT -6 Munditenens Tresplet said:

Dec 4, 2012 4:41:54 GMT -6 Mic'háglh del Avercül said:

Well, the Irish Extended keyboard serves my needs for many languages, so I don't need to shift. But I'd say that the version you give at the top of this thread would be very UNsuitable for Mac users, in terms of where it places much of the punctuation.

Not sure what you mean here. I'm a Mac user, and I can type with this keyboard layout just fine for both normal and Talossan use. The punctuation is all in the same normal places; ALT-keys only open up options for different types of punctuation.

I also use Mac and find the layout works well for me with one notable exception: the placement of the þ on the y key might be moved elsewhere because there are a lot of english words with the letter y in them and not nearly as many in Talossan.

[Munditenens Tresplet]

Dec 4, 2012 7:52:24 GMT -6 Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă said:

Dec 4, 2012 5:34:09 GMT -6 Munditenens Tresplet said:

Not sure what you mean here. I'm a Mac user, and I can type with this keyboard layout just fine for both normal and Talossan use. The punctuation is all in the same normal places; ALT-keys only open up options for different types of punctuation.

I also use Mac and find the layout works well for me with one notable exception: the placement of the þ on the y key might be moved elsewhere because there are a lot of english words with the letter y in them and not nearly as many in Talossan.

This is a problem I have as well (I'm sure the problem is shared by users of the PC version, as they are the same) and the suggestion will be noted for future versions.

[Sir C. M. Siervicül]

Hooligan has gone back and forth between a QWERTÞ format and a standard QWERTY format for the Talossan keyboard layout. I've suggested to him that perhaps what he really has is TWO keyboard layouts: QWERTÞ would be the Talossan layout per se, for hard-core Ladintschen who intend to type primarily in el glheþ, and QWERTY would be a Talossan English layout, for people who primarily type in Talossan English but also need access to the diacritics and special characters of the Talossan language.