Canun per el Senäts

[Sir Alexandreu Davinescu]

I would like to renew my endorsement of S:reu Canun: he is overwhelmingly the best candidate for the Maricopan seat, in my opinion.

[Iustì Carlüs Canun]

Thank you, S:r Davis.
And if there were anyone running against you in Maritiimi-Maxhestic, I'd endorse you right back, but thank God that's not the case.

;D

[Eðo Grischun]

I would also like to fully endorse S:r Canun, I believe he is the best candidate too. VOTE CANUN!

[Iustì Carlüs Canun]

Thank you also, S:r Grischun. Your endorsement is greatly appreciated.

[Daniel Filan]

I'd like to urge Maricopans to vote for S:r Canun - the candidate of hope, change, jetpacks and unicorns.

[Xhorxh Asmour]

I'm here at your disposal

[Deleted]

It is very easy, particularly after spending some awkward time in the "other guy's" thread, to say that I wish (if only temporarily) that I were Maricopan, so that I could vote for S:r Canun.

[Xhorxh Asmour]

I am Maricopan and I proudly voted for myself (as Iusti did too), but others will follow.

[Iustì Carlüs Canun]

Since the purpose of moving to this thread was to discuss issues, I reproduce here my opponent's list of objectives, with my responses:

- To launch a Maricopan website and discussion forum;
I agree with you that we need a website, but I see no point in having a discussion forum on a different site, since we're already getting plenty of use out of this one, especially lately.

- To create a provincial court;
- To set up a provincial Hopper;
These things, we need. I agree on that.

- To choose the official provincial entertainer;
I'm sure there are many things we can pick--the provincial entertainer, the provincial nose, etc.

- To establish cultural exchanges inside and outside the Kingdom;
- To open a general discussion on a future political parties' code;
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by these two. Would you mind clarifying, S:r Asmour?

- To invite Iustì Canun to join the ZPT
Go ahead and try. ;D

EDIT: I almost forgot--
-Jetpacks.
-Magical Unicorns named Terry.
-Rhubarb, rhubarb, rhubarb!
-Frickin' sharks with frickin' laser-beams attached to their heads.
-Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua.

Vote RUMP, because if squirrels are outlawed, only outlaws will have squirrels.

[Xhorxh Asmour]

- To establish cultural exchanges inside and outside the Kingdom.

Cultural exchanges among provinces and among Kingdomers and Talossans abroad.

- To open a general discussion on a future political parties' code.

Although there haven't been any really bad problems before, we need to regulate the way parties work and issues like party switching and subsequent reallotment of seats, for example.

[Iustì Carlüs Canun]

I see.
What exactly was it you meant by "cultural exchanges"?

We DO need the political parties' code.
It seems to me that in the case of party-switching, the seats should go back to the party that originally assigned them.
But in situations where the party disbands (like the CCCP did), the seat-holders ought to be free to take their seats and go to another party, if they so choose, or to become independent in the Cosa, or to just resign.
I don't know whether you meant just for Maricopa, or for the whole country, but either way, it's a decent idea.

[Xhorxh Asmour]

Inter-provincial cultural contests. I was also thinking about a kind of blog or monthly newsletter for Maricopa.

I meant it for the whole country. I agree with your ideas, but I would add that each party must have a clear charter establishing its members' rights and duties, and how much power the party leaders have (if they can or cannot do things without consulting with the members, for example).

[Sir Alexandreu Davinescu]

S:reu Asmour asked me to come comment on this proposal of a political parties' code. This is an issue that has often come up, especially in cases like the LRT (where succession was unclear, it seems). However, I think that we should leave well enough alone. The OrgLaw and custom have established that the law only recognizes the party sponsor as seat arbiter, and that any individual party can run however it wants. A party can have a democratic vote on a sponsor, or a sponsor and leader can be the same person, or whatever. The fact that any one person can only hold 30 seats means that no cabal could seize control of the Cosa through fraud. And when we reach a point where a mutinous cabal of five people is a reasonable fear, it's at that time we should return to the Real Cosa of twenty seats (because our numbers will be such that it would be possible).

In short, I don't want to have to write a charter and don't want everyone else to have to write one too, when we get along fine without one. The less government forces us to run our parties a certain way, the better, so that we can continue to have the diversity we always have possessed - ranging from elaborately styled chartered parties to mobocracies.

[Owen Edwards]

Well, as the Progressive Party has elsewhere suggested, the sort of system adopted in most proportional systems of our type actually include a list of candidates who will be awarded seats - so at least the public know who they're voting for.

[Sir Alexandreu Davinescu]

Jun 28, 2009 16:54:05 GMT -6 Owen Edwards said:

Well, as the Progressive Party has elsewhere suggested, the sort of system adopted in most proportional systems of our type actually include a list of candidates who will be awarded seats - so at least the public know who they're voting for.

And the Progressive Party is welcome to do that. Did you?