A STRANGE REACTION TALOSSANS!

[Hooligan]

Tony --

You said: "not one Talossan seems to be able, wanting or willing to back the DPD/PDP party for a late entry to the General Election as a Write-in-Party action."

However, I am "one Talossan" and I posted this:

Welcome back to the fray, Tony and the DPD! We're happy to have your hat in the ring again! To me, the way you re-entered the DPD into the election seems to be about the most Talossan way there is! Truly well done, in a very Talossan way!!

I fully and completely "back the DPD/PDP party for a late entry to the General Election as a Write-in-Party action"!

My own party, the RUMP, was a write-in party when we formed. Before the elections to the 35th Cosa, the RUMP, just like the DPD this time, did not register in time to be listed on the ballot.

Write-in parties are perfectly possible -- no one is saying they are not. Voters are free to vote for any party that is on the ballot, or for any party that is NOT on the ballot (which is "write-in"). In fact, we have seen one voter in this election vote for an unregistered party (the LRT).

Hooligan

[Hooligan]

Hi Tony --

The ballot cannot be changed after the election has begun. Only the parties that have registered before the deadline for registration are listed on the ballot.

Parties must pay the fee BEFORE the deadline in order to be on the ballot.

The Secretary of State must make (and pay for) paper copies and must send (and pay for) REAL WORLD mailings of the ballot. This is why there is a deadline. He cannot be expected to re-print and re-mail, and re-email the ballot AFTER the deadline if something changes.

"Write-in" means that the name of a party that is NOT on the ballot is WRITTEN IN by the voter. All citizens who have not voted yet are of course free to "write in" DPD on their ballot. And if you pay the fee before 30 days into the upcoming Cosa, your party is registered and receives any seats won during the vote.

I hope this helps.

Hooligan

[Sir Alexandreu Davinescu]

There are a literally infinite number of potential write-in parties. They can't all be listed as 0%.

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Sept 27, 2008 20:52:27 GMT -6 Mr. Tony Weckström said:

I guess I am now just confused, as it does not cost anything to Write-in the DPD/PDP party into the thread "General Election - Sept - Oct 2008 Results" as a party that is eligible to vote for.

For example.

In the percentages, there is no mention of the DPD party in the thread, it only says, and I quote: "

Total votes Cast for Cosa: 48
CCCP 4
CRO 2
GRUMP 2
LRT 1
KING 1
PP 11
RUMP 26 "

and so on.

At no point is the DPD mentioned as even receiving 0% of votes, so how can those citizens, that do not know that the DPD is in on the election know to vote on the party???

Kind regards,

Tony Weckström

Sept 27, 2008 20:49:13 GMT -6 Hooligan said:

Hi Tony --

The ballot cannot be changed after the election has begun. Only the parties that have registered before the deadline for registration are listed on the ballot.

Parties must pay the fee BEFORE the deadline in order to be on the ballot.

The Secretary of State must make (and pay for) paper copies and must send (and pay for) REAL WORLD mailings of the ballot. This is why there is a deadline. He cannot be expected to re-print and re-mail, and re-email the ballot AFTER the deadline if something changes.

"Write-in" means that the name of a party that is NOT on the ballot is WRITTEN IN by the voter. All citizens who have not voted yet are of course free to "write in" DPD on their ballot. And if you pay the fee before 30 days into the upcoming Cosa, your party is registered and receives any seats won during the vote.

I hope this helps.

Hooligan

There shows no "0%" for DPD because the DPD does not legally exist. Party registration was BEFORE the election. Those parties that registered are listed on the ballot. You are allowed to vote for the DPD (or the LRT, or whatever) but they are "WRITE-IN" votes. Thus, your party is not on the ballot, it must be "WRITTEN-IN" by the voter.

In the U.S. presidential election, I can write in Mick Preston, but I have no legal basis to complain that he is not on the ballot because he did not register to be in the election.

The LRT didn't show up on anything until someone actually voted for it. If someone votes for the DPD THEN it will appear on the election results. Right now, the DPD is nothing more than a hypothetical party, an idea, a party existing in potentiality but not in actuality..

[Capt. Sir Mick Preston]

Once the DPD gets a vote, I'll list them.

Just like I didn't list the LRT, until they got a vote.

I'm not going to list every combination of letters out there, seeing if someone is going to vote for them.

You had time to register, to post your 50 word statement, and to present your platform.

It's not MY fault you didn't make the GE Ballot.

Get a vote, I'll list the DPD.

[Hooligan]

Personally, as a fellow party leader, I would have no objection to the Secretary of State listing the vote total for the DPD on the tally sheet for the election (as it is not the official ballot, just a tally sheet).

However, I wish to note that this would open the door to everyone and his brother (even persons who have already voted for other parties) publishing a message on Witt saying "The ABC is now a write-in party" and "The DEF is now a write-in party" and "The GHI is now a write-in party" and should the Secretary of State immediately list them on the tally sheet as well?

Such parties did not properly register to be listed on the ballot, but would of course be listed on a tally sheet (as the LRT is) when any votes are cast by voters.

I repeat, though, that I would not object to the vote-count of the DPD being listed on the tally, even while it is zero, if the Secretary of State decides to do so.

Hooligan

[Mr. Tony Weckström]

Well the DPD/PDP is a registered political party in Talossa.

See: www.kingdomoftalossa.net/index.cgi?lingo=&page=Parties

I don't know anything about other "infinite" potential write-in parties.

And how should citizens be aware of these "infinite" parties, if no one brings them into anyones attention. At least I have not heard of any other parties...

Kind regards,

Tony Weckström
Royal Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary to the Republic of Finland

Sept 27, 2008 20:58:35 GMT -6 Sir Alexandreu Davinescu said:

There are a literally infinite number of potential write-in parties. They can't all be listed as 0%.

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Sept 27, 2008 21:03:02 GMT -6 Mr. Tony Weckström said:

Well the DPD/PDP is a registered political party in Talossa.

See: www.kingdomoftalossa.net/index.cgi?lingo=&page=Parties

I don't know anything about other "infinite" potential write-in parties.

And how should citizens be aware of these "infinite" parties, if no one brings them into anyones attention. At least I have not heard of any other parties...

Kind regards,

Tony Weckström
Royal Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary to the Republic of Finland

Sept 27, 2008 20:58:35 GMT -6 Sir Alexandreu Davinescu said:

There are a literally infinite number of potential write-in parties. They can't all be listed as 0%.

If you were a registered party you'd be on the ballot, scooter.

Re-read the link you just posted and you will see in red letters the words "the DPD is not registered for the 39th Cosa"

[Hooligan]

The DPD was and is listed on that Webpage because it held seats in the 38th Cosa.

If you'll note, it says in big red letters that the DPD did not register (by the time of the deadline) for elections to the 39th Cosa. These red letters have been there ever since the deadline to register to appear on the ballot for elections to the 39th Cosa passed.

Hooligan

[Capt. Sir Mick Preston]

Sir Fritz sent me a list of all parties registered the day before I posted the GE Ballot.

Your name and/or Party was not listed.

I did not receive your 50 word statement (as required) before the Election began.

You did not respond to the public postings I made about the Election, starting in August.

So, you , and the DPD are not a registered party for this Election.

If the DPD gets a vote, I'll record it.

If you want to go ahead and re-register the party, then you are free (and able) to do that.

In case you are not clear, you must re-register your party for EACH election. It's not a one time, forever and ever Registration.

[Capt. Sir Mick Preston]

I sent it to your updated email box.... the addy that you sent me...

www.kingdomoftalossa.net/chancery/GEBallot2008.doc

the email didn't bounce, and you never responded to my inquires to the Kingdom if people didn't get the ballot.

It's also in the top line here:

talossa.proboards32.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=3642&page=1

[Capt. Sir Mick Preston]

Tony-

Do you even read anything I write?

Go ahead and register the DPD. The procedure is outlined on both my comments on Witt, and the KOT home page.

Send $20 (American) to Sir Fritz. Send me a 50 word statement. Send Hooligan your Platform.

If and when you get a vote, I'll record it, and put the DPD name on the Ballot results.