New Flag!!! NEW MOTTO!

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Azul my fellow Vuodewomen(and men!)

Today I announce to you that Dreu and I have been working very closely together on a new Vuodeian flag. We hope this flag can truly capture the essence of what it means to be from our province. While we finalize the design, we are eager to hear your thoughts on it!!!!

I give my thanks for Dreu for dealing with me through my brainstorming rants and him having the patient to pick apart the 50 thoughts I was throwing at him and photo shopping the new flag.

It also has what I hope will become our new provincial motto.

This is the official beta of the flag:



The motto is both Finnish and Talossan and translates to: First Enlightened. We were considering the history of our great province entirely throughout the conceptualizing phase.

Before I break down the various meanings of the flag, I just want to say, we are working on moving the font completely into the white part of the flag. We understand that this does not follow the rules for a shield, but it is our understanding that because this is not a coat of arms, it does not have to follow the rules, hence the coloring schemes.

So here is the breakdown:

The two birds are dove, which is a universally understood understanding of peace. Each bird represents the Talossan national colors to show our loyalty to Talossa and to our rightful monarch, King John. The Sword between the birds represents the understanding that to maintain peace, we have to fight for peace, as we remember fondly from the days of the Glorious 21. Onto coloring: blue historally means truth, white meaning peacefulness and friendliness, and Orange, my personal favorite, Wisdom.

Please, we need feed back. Once our new government is set up, and we have reestablished ourselves as an active province. Finally, we wish to shake off the last of the Madisonian influence in our modern province. The old flag is boring, it will forever be remembered as a historical representation of Vuode, but for us to move forward, we need a new symbol.

~Viteu

[Sir Alexandreu Davinescu]

Minister, I hate to be ants at a picnic and love the new flag (especially the irony of two doves around a sword), but doesn't this have to go through the vexillologists at the College of Arms?

[Sir C. M. Siervicül]

vitooliver said:

Finally, we wish to shake off the last of the Madisonian influence in our modern province.

Why would you want to reject all Madisonian influence? Completely divorce the province from its roots? You certainly don't have to (and wouldn't want to) endorse everything he did, but Vuode shouldn't forget that it started out as Ben's bed.

agbdavis said:

Minister, I hate to be ants at a picnic and love the new flag (especially the irony of two doves around a sword), but doesn't this have to go through the vexillologists at the College of Arms?

The Minister of Culture has a point. See the Royal Household Cleaning Act (35 RZ 24, as amended by 35 RZ 29).

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Yes, but we're looking to get the opinion of others.

Now... the flag does actually references a lot of Madison. Accordoing to our History, it was Ben who lead the Glorious 21, which proved Dan wrong. And motto, which translates two "First Enligthened" is a direct reference to Vuode being the first province and being founded as a bed. However, for Vuode to move forward, Vuode should reinvent herself. We are not denying our past, we are using our flag to represent our past. Maybe saying shake off the reset of Madisonian influence was the wrong thing to say.

Besides, to be a bit more basic about it, the old flag is plain, this new one is pretty.

[Sir C. M. Siervicül]

vitooliver said:

However, for Vuode to move forward, Vuode should reinvent herself. We are not denying our past, we are using our flag to represent our past. Maybe saying shake off the reset of Madisonian influence was the wrong thing to say.

Thanks for clarifying. I understand you much better now.

[Dréu Gavárþic'h]

It makes me very happy to see my hard work pay off.

[Hooligan]

Wait a minute. "...it was Ben who led the Glorious 21, which proved Dan wrong."

Dan was wrong about something? You sure you have your facts right??

Or have you been listening to the Contessa?

:-)

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Yup!

From the Official Vuodianic History:

The Union is Dissolved!

After 1987, Vuode remained a staunch bastion of Tory Monarchism, and in June of 1991 a new Constitution was written which made Vuode in effect a one-party state with the Premier in the driver's seat. In August of 1992, a scandal-wracked Leftist government won power in Talossa under Prime Minister Tom Buffone. R. Ben Madison, still King of Talossa and Premier of Vuode, went ape over what he saw as the government's attack on Talossan nationality. Danihél Lauriéir, a prominent figure in the new government, had articulated the philosophy of "Peculiarism" which sought to define Talossa not as a country-like community, but as a wacky, borderless Zen-like "afterglow" or plasmatic blobule unlike anything else on earth, with no claims to territory or physical space. When the government blocked Madison's referendum attempt to define Talossa as a "real country," he immediately declared that Talossa had abandoned its national heritage; and to preserve that heritage, archconservative Vuode Province proclaimed its secession from Talossa as an independent Principality!

Vuode maintained its pompous nationhood for its "Glorious 21 Days." Madison claimed that since the Talossan government no longer believed Talossa to be a nation, Buffone could hardly complain if Vuode violated what the Constituziun called "national laws." "I will admit it does look like you've come up with something pretty clever," Lauriéir told Madison; later Lauriéir denounced Vuode's philosophical "Unilateral Proclamation of Secession" as "bewildering and ambiguous," the product of "a mind Jesuits would envy." Back in Talossa, hierarchs Lauriéir and Murphy staged what Madison called a coup d'état, proclaiming that King Robert I was no longer King or even a Talossan citizen, and preparing to rule by decree in his absence. Both sides agreed to settle the dispute in the Uppermost Cort to avert a full-scale Talossan Civil War. The Cort convicted Madison of treason (but gave him a suspended sentence on the grounds he was a "first time offender") but more importantly, affirmed Madison's central belief that "Peculiarism" was an invalid, un-Talossan philosophy. Talossa's true identity thus confirmed, Vuode abandoned its secession.