Lüc da Schir
Senator for Benito
If Italy wins a Six Nations match I will join the Zouaves
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Talossan Since: 3-21-2012
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Post by Lüc da Schir on Nov 15, 2019 15:29:08 GMT -6
My results, out of 108:
FreeDems – 83 AMP – 75 MTGA – 70 ZPT – 67 NPW – 59 PNP – 59
And picking a side on 9 neutral answers I got:
FreeDems – 82 AMP – 80 MTGA – 69 ZPT – 62 NPW – 58 PNP – 56
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Lüc da Schir
Senator for Benito
If Italy wins a Six Nations match I will join the Zouaves
Posts: 4,125
Talossan Since: 3-21-2012
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Post by Lüc da Schir on Nov 15, 2019 15:31:42 GMT -6
I am especially surprised that the ZPT has such a “high” score, considering their ämreçh-ful platform. (Yes, I coined a new word for the horror, fright, anger, and powerlessness I felt while reading its rhetoric and its policies) It's not *super* surprising. Had the ZPT released a platform on time, we could have inserted some specific questions that would have set them apart more clearly.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Nov 15, 2019 15:39:16 GMT -6
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Nov 15, 2019 18:54:31 GMT -6
I must say, I am delighted by the results. I am especially surprised that the ZPT has such a “high” score, considering their ämreçh-ful platform. (Yes, I coined a new word for the horror, fright, anger, and powerlessness I felt while reading its rhetoric and its policies) You won't be surprised to hear that I'm not a fan of the ZPT* programme. But your reaction seems quite intense. Perhaps you might explain to the broad masses why you feel there's so much ämreçh in their platform? * The original ZPT founded in 1996 by Ken Oplinger and Marcüs Pitz was a centre-left opposition party to the King Robert I regime. I'm not sure how its name got taken over by a hyperreactionary party.
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Post by Magniloqueu Épiqeu da Lhiun on Nov 15, 2019 19:07:08 GMT -6
I must say, I am delighted by the results. I am especially surprised that the ZPT has such a “high” score, considering their ämreçh-ful platform. (Yes, I coined a new word for the horror, fright, anger, and powerlessness I felt while reading its rhetoric and its policies) You won't be surprised to hear that I'm not a fan of the ZPT* programme. But your reaction seems quite intense. Perhaps you might explain to the broad masses why you feel there's so much ämreçh in their platform? * The original ZPT founded in 1996 by Ken Oplinger and Marcüs Pitz was a centre-left opposition party to the King Robert I regime. I'm not sure how its name got taken over by a hyperreactionary party.You are right, I have to explain it. Since I have been on my mobile phone, I felt it too cumbersome to do so, but I had and still have definitely planned to reply to the ZPT’s platform on the appropriate thread, where I will also explain my emotions and reactions to it.
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Post by Iason Bitxichë Taiwos on Nov 16, 2019 3:37:19 GMT -6
This is what I got. (Jeez, thought I woulda had more in the FreeDems)
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Lüc da Schir
Senator for Benito
If Italy wins a Six Nations match I will join the Zouaves
Posts: 4,125
Talossan Since: 3-21-2012
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Post by Lüc da Schir on Nov 16, 2019 10:15:15 GMT -6
0/90 is actually an impossible result, it must be a bug.
The way Talomat scores your results is based on the deviation between your answers and each party's answers: if the party answered Yes/No you will get 2 points for the same answer, 1 for Neutral and 0 for the opposite answer; but if the party answered Neutral, you will get 2 points if you also answered Neutral, and 1 point if you answered Yes/No. (These scores are then doubled if you decide that question is important and should count double.)
So you can only get 0 for a party if they never answered Neutral and you always answered the opposite. The FreeDems gave 7 Neutral answers, so you can't get less than 7 points for them.
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Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial
Batetz las maes, perf. —— Freelance glheþineir (I only accept Worthless Internet Points™ as payment)
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Talossan Since: May 12, 2014
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Post by Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on Nov 16, 2019 10:47:23 GMT -6
0/90 is actually an impossible result, it must be a bug. The way Talomat scores your results is based on the deviation between your answers and each party's answers: if the party answered Yes/No you will get 2 points for the same answer, 1 for Neutral and 0 for the opposite answer; but if the party answered Neutral, you will get 2 points if you also answered Neutral, and 1 point if you answered Yes/No. (These scores are then doubled if you decide that question is important and should count double.) So you can only get 0 for a party if they never answered Neutral and you always answered the opposite. The FreeDems gave 7 Neutral answers, so you can't get less than 7 points for them. I dont know, answering the exact opposite of the Freedems and skipping questions which the Freedems answered with Neutral would give you 0 points with them, no?
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Lüc da Schir
Senator for Benito
If Italy wins a Six Nations match I will join the Zouaves
Posts: 4,125
Talossan Since: 3-21-2012
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Post by Lüc da Schir on Nov 16, 2019 10:50:35 GMT -6
But that wouldn't give you a total of 90 points.
Unless you counted double some answers.
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Ian Plätschisch
Senator for Maritiimi-Maxhestic
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Talossan Since: 3-21-2015
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Post by Ian Plätschisch on Nov 16, 2019 11:38:05 GMT -6
If this is possible, I would suggest not giving voters a neutral option and instead just telling them to skip any question they have no opinion on. Should it really be worth two points if a party and a voter both have no opinion on an issue?
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Lüc da Schir
Senator for Benito
If Italy wins a Six Nations match I will join the Zouaves
Posts: 4,125
Talossan Since: 3-21-2012
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Post by Lüc da Schir on Nov 16, 2019 12:04:23 GMT -6
No, it should not. Perhaps we can come up with a custom version of Mahlowat for next time.
For instance, I would have rather had five buttons (strongly agree to strongly disagree) instead of the count double thing, which is underutilised and can't be used by parties themselves where they have strong opinions on an issue.
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Post by Eðo Grischun on Nov 16, 2019 12:19:22 GMT -6
Updated results with FD and ZPT
PNP 90 NPW 54 AMP 48 Freedem 45 MTGA 40 ZPT 38
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Lüc da Schir
Senator for Benito
If Italy wins a Six Nations match I will join the Zouaves
Posts: 4,125
Talossan Since: 3-21-2012
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Post by Lüc da Schir on Nov 16, 2019 12:19:38 GMT -6
On a different topic, Cloudflare analytics shows the website got 65 unique visitors since Talomat opened I don't know if those are all voters, but even if 40 of them were, that's still one in four eligible voters taking the test, which I think it's great news.
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Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial
Batetz las maes, perf. —— Freelance glheþineir (I only accept Worthless Internet Points™ as payment)
Posts: 448
Talossan Since: May 12, 2014
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Post by Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on Nov 16, 2019 12:46:34 GMT -6
I'd like to thank the person responsible for the AMP's statements for making my job difficult.
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Ian Plätschisch
Senator for Maritiimi-Maxhestic
Posts: 4,001
Talossan Since: 3-21-2015
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Post by Ian Plätschisch on Nov 16, 2019 13:43:37 GMT -6
I'd like to thank the person responsible for the AMP's statements for making my job difficult. What can I say; I'm thorough.
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