Üc R. Tärfâ
Talossan since 3-8-2005
Deputy Fiôván Secretary of State
Posts: 760
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Post by Üc R. Tärfâ on May 5, 2016 14:34:25 GMT -6
The Ziu is nowhere in the Orglaw given the right to set the boundaries as it sees fit. Show me where it says that, and then maybe you have a point. I did it above. Brief: geographical assignment boundaries only purpose is to assign immigrating citizens who live outside of the metropolitan territory to a Province. The Ziu has exclusive authority over immigration and naturalisation, and it legislates on the assignment of outsider citizens to a Province.
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Post by Iason Bitxichë Taiwos on May 5, 2016 17:30:33 GMT -6
As a rebellious, quarrelsome Benitian, the words "exclusive authority over" makes my skin crawl. I can't speak for everybody else in this province, but I don't ken to an extra-Benitian entity having authority over what goes on in my province. Boring, sleep inducing law books aside, I think provincial participation in the Kingdom should be entirely voluntary. Benito should work with the "state" and the other provinces for mutual benefit. When circumstances make this mutual relationship unbeneficial to my province, then we should have the ability to..."jump ship", to put it Navally.
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Post by E.S. Bornatfiglheu on May 5, 2016 17:46:43 GMT -6
I'll not deny that assigning immigrant's is the law's purpose, and the Orglaw permits the Ziu to assign. And if they did this on an individual basis, then they would be holding to the letter of the law. Instead, they "outsourced" this to catchment, and in doing created a psuedo-territory. The effect is that of delineating provincial sovereignty. It has the same effect as territory, pure and simple.
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Üc R. Tärfâ
Talossan since 3-8-2005
Deputy Fiôván Secretary of State
Posts: 760
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Post by Üc R. Tärfâ on May 6, 2016 5:59:41 GMT -6
I've showed you the Organic Law in my posts above. But you are talking about "pseudo-territory" created by «geographical assignment boundaries» (Organic terminology) with a Province exercising power over a "pseudo-territory" outside of Talossa sovereignty.
Putting aside the debate on the nature of talossan sovereignty... You're postulating Parliamentary Supremacy over Organic Law – otherwise how could a law expand talossan sovereignty over lands outside the Talossan metropolitan territory which is the space identified by the OrgLaw for the exercise of that sovereignty and parliamentary authority? – which is ironic because that would mean that parliamentary acts can't be "inorganic"...
I don't see neither the "pure" nor the "simple", but you have the burden of proof upon yourself to demonstrate inorganicity.
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Post by E.S. Bornatfiglheu on May 7, 2016 12:48:13 GMT -6
I don't see neither the "pure" nor the "simple", but you have the burden of proof upon yourself to demonstrate inorganicity. You have shown me the Orglaw, and I've read it myself. Thank you. The burden of proof is on us, correct. But not to demonstrate it to you. I don't much care what you think, unless you happen to be sitting on the bench. No? Ok then.
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Üc R. Tärfâ
Talossan since 3-8-2005
Deputy Fiôván Secretary of State
Posts: 760
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Post by Üc R. Tärfâ on May 9, 2016 0:38:46 GMT -6
No I don't. Do as you wish.
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