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Post by Pôl d'Aurìbuérg on Mar 9, 2016 5:27:15 GMT -6
It is with a sad heart, that my wife and I have come to the conclusion that we as a family, no longer want to be part of Talossa.
It's been fun, but having two young children with health issues has taken any free time we did have.
We feel that since reunision this country taken a turn for the worse, and that is not something we wish to expose our children to.
Maybe after our kids grow up we might check back and see how things are going, if this country is still around.
Thanks for the memories.
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Post by Marti-Pair Furxheir S.H. on Mar 9, 2016 7:19:31 GMT -6
I am sad to see you go,
I have marked you and your wife as having renunced.
We will need to find a replacement for your Senate seat.
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Post by Marti-Pair Furxheir S.H. on Mar 9, 2016 7:23:54 GMT -6
The previous reply was from the Secretary of State.
This reply is from a private individual who was in the Republic.
Sorry from all of the people from the Republic of Talossa who ruined your little fantasy of having a country where everyone gets along.
Sorry for my former colleagues introducing ideas contrary to how you think.
Sorry for some of them having the nerve of gaining more seats than your precious RUMP.
Sorry for all of that.
Sorry for having giving you an excuse for leaving. You honestly could have just said you no longer wanted to stay.
But the King not acting against a convicted child abuser isn't the reason you are leaving, it's the REUNISON from now FOUR YEARS AGO which is to blame.
Most of all, I am sorry for not feeling sad as seeing you go after you post this reason for leaving.
And yet, Your kids were plenty of an understandable explanation.
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Post by Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă on Mar 9, 2016 7:59:01 GMT -6
Um, Pol renounced, but Audrada must do so herself in order to renounce. You cannot legally mark Audrada as renounced based on what her husband said.
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Post by Marti-Pair Furxheir S.H. on Mar 9, 2016 9:12:00 GMT -6
Um, Pol renounced, but Audrada must do so herself in order to renounce. You cannot legally mark Audrada as renounced based on what her husband said. Oh my, you are 100% right!!! Let me correct that right away EDIT: Done
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Post by Magniloqueu Épiqeu da Lhiun on Mar 9, 2016 9:26:17 GMT -6
It is with a sad heart, that my wife and I have come to the conclusion that we as a family, no longer want to be part of Talossa. It's been fun, but having two young children with health issues has taken any free time we did have. We feel that since reunision this country taken a turn for the worse, and that is not something we wish to expose our children to. Maybe after our kids grow up we might check back and see how things are going, if this country is still around. Thanks for the memories. So... are you renouncing because Talossa has gained more citizens, activity, and democracy by virtue of Reunision, or because you don't like Talossa anymore, or because of Canungate, or because the RUMP isn't the greatest party anymore?
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Mar 9, 2016 10:20:13 GMT -6
I'm sorry to see you go, Pol. I do agree that things have gotten pretty rough, with fewer active citizens and some really vicious partisanship at times, and that we're not seeing a lot of good trends. And of course, we were all gutted by the Iusti thing (and some of us were affected very personally). But I still think Reunision was a good thing, and disagree with you sharply about that -- as do most people, I think. And I think we can still turn a lot of the other things around, if we work hard. I hope you find the time and heart to return to Talossa eventually.
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Post by Owen Edwards on Mar 9, 2016 13:06:11 GMT -6
Pol is, of course, right, that partisanship - including from the party he has most often affiliated with - has increased since Reunision, and has largely been to the detriment of Talossa. I can understand why he'd want out. Of course, Pol doesn't simply blame Reunision; he marks it as a timestamp. I am pretty certain the recent controversy has had to do with it, too. I think the vituperation from people on this thread is embarrassing and should be hastily and heartily repented of (especially the dreadful double post from the SoS).
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Mar 9, 2016 13:52:38 GMT -6
The fact that Pól renounced after the election kind of proves the point I've been making about certain people who only want to be in Talossa if their side are running things.
So I assume the Florencia authorities will be appointing a replacement? Because otherwise we've got a very reform-leaning Senäts.
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Post by Marti-Pair Furxheir S.H. on Mar 9, 2016 15:17:48 GMT -6
Pol is, of course, right, that partisanship - including from the party he has most often affiliated with - has increased since Reunision, and has largely been to the detriment of Talossa. I can understand why he'd want out. Of course, Pol doesn't simply blame Reunision; he marks it as a timestamp. I am pretty certain the recent controversy has had to do with it, too. I think the vituperation from people on this thread is embarrassing and should be hastily and heartily repented of (especially the dreadful double post from the SoS). The SoS did not make a double post. The SoS made a single post, and then, the individual holding the SoS office made a post.
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Post by Magniloqueu Épiqeu da Lhiun on Mar 9, 2016 15:18:44 GMT -6
Pol is, of course, right, that partisanship - including from the party he has most often affiliated with - has increased since Reunision, and has largely been to the detriment of Talossa. I can understand why he'd want out. Of course, Pol doesn't simply blame Reunision; he marks it as a timestamp. I am pretty certain the recent controversy has had to do with it, too. I think the vituperation from people on this thread is embarrassing and should be hastily and heartily repented of (especially the dreadful double post from the SoS). The SoS did not make a double post. The SoS made a single post, and then, the individual holding the SoS office made a post. Now you are being ridiculous.
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Mar 9, 2016 16:02:09 GMT -6
The previous reply was from the Secretary of State. Sorry from all of the people from the Republic of Talossa who ruined your little fantasy of having a country where everyone gets along. You know, I've never understood the narrative that "Reunision brought mean politics into Talossa". Not true. I didn't pay that much attention to 2006-12 Kingdom politics (except vaguely hoping for a RUMP defeat), but unless I'm massively mistaken, the Progressive Party caught a whole mess of hell. Owen Edwards renounced for a while because of the attacks he was getting from the conservative-monarchist parties. I'm not still annoyed by BETRAYED STOLEN KEPT at this stage, but that was still going on at the time as well. What is the difference between now and then? Simply: the RUMP loses elections now.
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Post by Sir C. M. Siervicül on Mar 9, 2016 16:12:23 GMT -6
. Owen Edwards renounced for a while because of the attacks he was getting from the conservative-monarchist parties Um, no. Unless I'm seriously misremembering, that was a feud among opposition parties.
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Mar 9, 2016 16:16:27 GMT -6
The Venn diagram of "conservative monarchists" and "non-RUMP" shows an intersection. I am thinking mainly of cxhn. Ventrútx's ZPT here? The point that nasty politics predate Reunision stands.
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Post by Marti-Pair Furxheir S.H. on Mar 9, 2016 16:29:08 GMT -6
The SoS did not make a double post. The SoS made a single post, and then, the individual holding the SoS office made a post. Now you are being ridiculous. :( So when you post, you ALWAYS post as a Senator? Never you have an opinion as a private individual, but as a Senator, you have a more politically correct opinion?
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