Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
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Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Apr 27, 2019 11:44:54 GMT -6
My question with this, and excuse me if im showing ignorance of the law here. But why would the case be to default to Wisconsin law? Because Talossa specifically adopted Wisconsin law. El Lexhatx, provision A1:
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Apr 20, 2019 17:09:56 GMT -6
S:reu Perþonest, Iason has resigned from the FreeDems, leaving me as the party leader in the province. All right. E.S. Bornatfiglheu, as Benitan FreeDem leader, please assign five seats in the Benitan Assembly. Erschéveþ da Schir, as ModRad leader, please assign five seats in the Benitan Assembly. Ian Plätschisch, as AMP leader, please assign one seat in the Benitan Assembly.
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Apr 14, 2019 19:53:24 GMT -6
Well, I can't say I was expecting this, but I figure it's a good idea to make an immediate public note of it:
The Zefençadeirs del Päts Talossan fee has been received for the 54th Cosa Election.
Assuming no change in the party fee schedule between now and the election, the ZPT has PAID IN FULL.
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Apr 14, 2019 15:41:39 GMT -6
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Apr 14, 2019 15:22:47 GMT -6
To that end, I will apologize to Glüc for calling him a liar in my response. I could have taken a moment to better explain the nuance of my position. [SNIP] (4) Ian Plätschisch interposes a comment that me calling Gluc a liar is not helpful. I must concede that he is right without reservation. Again, it is on me for not clarifying the nuance of what I consider a lie and what I don't consider a lie. Ian Plätschisch has my apology in that regard. Cool. That's all I was trying to communicate in my previous post on this thread.
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Apr 13, 2019 16:37:52 GMT -6
Well, if the guy who's seat is the issue is not objecting, I'm going to take that as a good-enough, at least for now. Unless someone else objects? (And don't worry, I suspect people will vote oddly no matter what. And it's not like the precedents are anything more than how you or I judged the first time an issue came up anyway.) My suggestion for any cases of tied remainders, by the way, is that we use a publicly-available published random number as the determinant, as specified in advance of the number's selection and publishing by the Arvitieir Prima. So in this case, the Arvitieir Prima might post, right now, "The first number drawn for the Saturday, April 13th Wisconsin Megabucks lottery will determine the seat. ModRads are assigned numbers 1-24, the FreeDems 25-48. If 49 is drawn, the second number drawn will determine the seat." If there were three tied parties, the ranges would be something like 1-16, 17-32, 33-48, with 49 rolling over. Four would be 1-12, 13-24, 25-36, 37-48, 49 rolling over. Five would be 1-9, 10-18, 19-27, 28-36, 37-45, with 46-49 roiling over potentially to the fifth number drawn. And so on . . .
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Apr 13, 2019 15:50:29 GMT -6
Given the Organic Law stipulation that the Secretary of State cannot be a member of the Uppermost Cort for good reason, is there a particular abuse, historical or potential, that the ban on the other Permanent Secretaries being Justices is intended to avoid?
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Apr 13, 2019 15:38:04 GMT -6
You can't obviously think that the suspension did not result in expulsion. You can't obviously expect me to exercise mental gymnastics that wittiquette overcomes Organic Law. You can't honestly expect me not to presume you a liar for even suggesting it. Yes, a Witt suspension clearly hampers participation in Talossa. Yes, it is absolutely a serious Organic Law violation when the King blocks a member of the Ziu from participating in the Ziu, regardless of what anyone thought they were doing and in what capacity. But, no, suspension of a Witt account is not the same thing as expulsion from Talossa, if only because it does not prevent exercise of the franchise. Even if in your opinion a suspension is so hampering to be tantamount to expulsion, it is perfectly possible for others to be of the honest opinion that the differences are substantive enough to matter. And calling those who express such an opinion "liars" for expressing it is not merely unmannerly, it's ludicrous. I am not telling you to stop calling it an expulsion. I am not telling you to be happy with people who contradict you on whether it was an expulsion. But I am telling you that you look like a fool when you insist that nobody can honestly disagree with you, that they can only contradict you if they're liars.
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Apr 11, 2019 13:14:26 GMT -6
So far, we only have preliminary results, I believe. But those give us:
FREEDEMS 4 MODRADS 5 PRESENT 1 IAN PLäTSCHISCH 1 LUC DA SHIR 1 IASON TAIWOS 1
Assuming those all hold, under the precedents of for voting for the party leader and voting PRESENT, that translates to:
FreeDems: 5 AMP: 1 ModRads: 5 ? ? ? ? ? : 1
Under precedent, we treated a vote for Luc da Shir as a vote for Luc da Schir, so that's either an unregistered independent or as an effort to cast a vote for the ModRads. That then leaves the question as to whether it was a successful attempt at either, since we have no specific precedent on unregistered independents under the current rules and it wasn't for the actual party leader.
If we treat it as a failed vote, the seat distribution is easy. 5 ModRad, 5 FreeDem, 1 AMP, all integers.
If we treat it as a valid vote for Luc da Schir as an independent, under the precedent-established Hare-Niemeyer system we get:
Quota = 12 (votes) / 11 (seats) = 1.09090909...
Party Calculation Seats ModRads 5/(12/11) = 4 seats, 0.58333... remainder Free Democrats 5/(12/11) = 4 seats, 0.58333... remainder AMP 1/(12/11) = 0 seats, 0.91666... remainder Luc da Schir 1/(12/11) = 0 seats, 0.91666... remainder
4 integer seats ModRads (+4 seats, 4) 4 seats assigned, 4 integer seats FreeDems (+4 seats, 4) 8 seats assigned, largest remainder tie AMP/Luc da Schir (+1 seat each, 1 seat each) 10 seats assigned, largest remainder tie ModRads/FreeDems, equal claim. 4 ModRad, 4 FreeDem, 1 AMP, 1 Luc da Schir, 1 undetermined
If we treat it as a valid vote for the ModRads, under the precedent-established Hare-Niemeyer system we get:
Quota = 12 (votes) / 11 (seats) = 1.09090909...
Party Calculation Seats ModRads 6/(12/11) = 5 seats, 0.5 remainder Free Democrats 5/(12/11) = 4 seats, 0.58333... remainder AMP 1/(12/11) = 0 seats, 0.91666... remainder
5 integer seats ModRads (+5 seats, 5) 5 seats assigned, 4 integer seats FreeDems (+4 seats, 4) 9 seats assigned, largest remainder AMP (+1 seat, 1) 10 seats assigned, largest remainder FreeDems (+1 seat, 5) 5 ModRad, 5 FreeDem, 1 AMP.
So, my current preliminary inclination is to say these preliminary results should result in a 5 ModRad, 5 FreeDem, 1 AMP distribution.
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Apr 8, 2019 9:23:49 GMT -6
The Moderate Radicals Arise! fee has been received.
PAID FEES:
The ModRads have PAID IN FULL. AMP has PAID IN FULL. The RUMP has PAID IN FULL. The Free Democrats of Talossa have PAID IN FULL.
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Mar 28, 2019 14:48:42 GMT -6
Which would establish a perverse incentive to make sure your small party didn't get that expensive 4th vote. :-) — John R Peculiarist Obstructionist Socialist Tory Extraderivatist Republican Inactivist Oldgrowth Royalist (POSTERIOR) party platform, plank 47: "The death penalty for anyone who casts a fourth vote for us!"
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Mar 22, 2019 11:49:12 GMT -6
Just to note (late), the Burgermeister of Inland Revenue and his reports operate on the basis of a louis being $1.50 exactly, and there being 60 bence to a louis.
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
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Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Mar 18, 2019 15:56:12 GMT -6
Hey, if a plurality vote PRESENT, do we get Seneschál Santa Claus?
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
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Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Mar 18, 2019 9:29:08 GMT -6
The Awakening and Magnifying Passion fee has been received.
PAID FEES:
AMP has PAID IN FULL. The RUMP has PAID IN FULL. The Free Democrats of Talossa have PAID IN FULL.
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Mar 14, 2019 19:27:54 GMT -6
Let's see, it's the 14th now, right?
Për.
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