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Post by Magniloqueu Épiqeu da Lhiun on Aug 1, 2014 10:11:25 GMT -6
Again, forgive me that it has taken me so long to respond, but my grandfather has left this morning by car, to drive to Turkey, and I had to attend urgent matters relating to that.
As to your question, I find myself to be in concert with Senator Preston's views:
I have had a few occasions in my yet short history as a Member of the Cosa, where my party did not feel like I was submitting to the discipline. Of course, they did not hold a grudge, but as Capitán C. Xheraltescù once said to me: This is not to say that I did not share my party's views largely: indeed, why else join them if not for the ideology? But I do not see a political party as something ultimately binding. If I see that any bill would hurt Maritiimi-Maxhestic, and its people, more than it will be of use to them, I will vote that specific bill down, even if it means going against the wishes of my party.
Therefore, I can state proudly and without any doubt that I will be a protector (if you will) of the people of Maritiimi-Maxhestic first. I will hear out every- and anybody that comes unto me with any trouble, and I will act according to my conscience, to help them in any way possible.
That the Senäts was hoped to be a less political House can be observed by the fact that Senators do not a) get to vote on the Vote of Confidence, therefore being given a clear directive to observe but not interfere; and, b) get to keep their mandate over Cosas, therefore constituting a more lasting institution in the legislative.
I intend to keep the Organic Law's purpose of the Senäts up, if I am elected! Thank you for your time.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Aug 1, 2014 10:17:01 GMT -6
Thank you. Sir Mick, would you care to make a short rebuttal?
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
Capitán of the Zouaves
Posts: 6,511
Talossan Since: 9-21-2006
Knight Since: 10-12-2010
Motto: Cuimhnichibh air na daoine bho'n d'thainig sibh
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Aug 1, 2014 11:51:45 GMT -6
Thank you. Sir Mick, would you care to make a short rebuttal?I appreciate the offer, Sir Alexandreu - But I don't believe there is anything to rebut. We both agree that we feel we represent Maritiimi-Maxhestic over our nominal membership in our respective political parties.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Aug 1, 2014 22:48:00 GMT -6
All right! We will have one final question from me, and then I'll let you directly address each other about one chosen issue, each. And after that, your final statements to the people. So we're almost done! What a great couple of statesmen we have here, by the way... proud to be involved in this!
MC da Lhiun: What aspect of Maritiimi-Maxhestic culture do you find most interesting? We have an official sandwich, a ground-breakingly weird government, and a history of dictatorship - what appeals to you as a Maritiimi-Maxhestian?
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Post by Magniloqueu Épiqeu da Lhiun on Aug 2, 2014 15:23:45 GMT -6
I must sadly say that sandwiches tend to land right on my belly, converted into fat and uglies. Especially our official sandwich is a very, very ... fatty one. Might I suggest, herewith, an official salad for those who worry about their figure?
Anyhow, I really like the fact that there is Not-Istuporaziua every 4 years, on the 29th of February! We should remember this wonderous day and not-celebrate our province! I believe the next Nostuporaziua will be on February 29, 2016! Oh man, I can't wait!
I am also pleased that the province has a link to Germany, which is the country, wherein I have grown up. (By the way; I hope to offer a German course in the university, one day, and I hope that all Maritiimi-Maxhestians will decide to take the course! Maybe, I will take it down to the provincial level, and offer a provincial course as well, for those who have problems with "authority", and homeworks!)
Did you know that the David Barnett Gallery is in our Province? Yes yes, in Villatx Freiric, you can find nice opera artis! Okay, to be honest: I am looking at their homepage now, and not much looks appealing...
Where is the Art Brut, the Surrealism? Seriously, people? AND WHERE ARE THE FLOWER PAINTINGS?!
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Aug 2, 2014 18:59:09 GMT -6
Thank you very much. Sir Preston, same question?
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
Capitán of the Zouaves
Posts: 6,511
Talossan Since: 9-21-2006
Knight Since: 10-12-2010
Motto: Cuimhnichibh air na daoine bho'n d'thainig sibh
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Aug 2, 2014 19:15:38 GMT -6
Thank you, Sir Alexandreu !
"What aspect of Maritiimi-Maxhestic culture do you find most interesting? We have an official sandwich, a ground-breakingly weird government, and a history of dictatorship - what appeals to you as a Maritiimi-Maxhestian? "
The vowels.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Aug 2, 2014 23:27:33 GMT -6
I suppose we don't need rebuttals!
Okay, Sir Mick, is there a question you would like to ask of your opponent? Preferably something about his qualifications, history, actions, legislation...?
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
Capitán of the Zouaves
Posts: 6,511
Talossan Since: 9-21-2006
Knight Since: 10-12-2010
Motto: Cuimhnichibh air na daoine bho'n d'thainig sibh
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Aug 3, 2014 12:36:19 GMT -6
S:reu da Lhiun:
In that you have been a Citizen of our Kingdom, do you feel that you have enough experience and knowledge to represent our Province as our Senator? I ask this because I feel your grasp of OrgLaw is questionable, and of Statutory Law practically non-existent.
For example, As an MC, weren't you the author of the "I very much disliked the Stasi Act (I Mud Stasi)" that at first asked the King to bestow Knighthood on Edward Snowden? Wasn't that the Bill where you attempted to allow a non-member of the Ziu to co-author your Bill? When the rules about non-Ziu members were not allowed to co-sponsor Bills, you quickly changed the Bill? Then when objections were made to granting peerage to a non-citizen (an unprecedented request , and legally questionable) that you went quiet about this Bill?
And then, weren't you the MC that drastically changed the wording of that very same Bill - without submitting it to the Hopper first?
I speak of this:
(Hoppered) MOREOVER the nation asks our gracious King John I to consider granting to Edward Snowden a peerage for his outstanding service to humanity and for his courage to step forward and perilling (sic) his life for his cause. Was changed to:
(Clarked) MOREOVER the nation asks the Ziu and the Senate to consider giving to Edward Snowden the Senatorial Medal of Honour, for his outstanding service to humanity and for his courage to step forward and peril his life for his cause.
So, I repeat my question - Do you feel that you have enough experience and knowledge to represent our Province as our Senator?
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Aug 3, 2014 16:26:19 GMT -6
MC Da Lhiun, your response?
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Aug 5, 2014 19:10:30 GMT -6
MC Da Lhiun, I know that you are very busy, but once more I am going to have to ask you for a response, please.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Aug 7, 2014 8:56:00 GMT -6
MC Da Lhiun, we really do need to move on, and we've waited for four days already. I know you're not just avoiding this question, because you're very busy, but you will forfeit your right to reply if you can't participate soon. I apologize for rushing you, but time is limited.
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Post by Magniloqueu Épiqeu da Lhiun on Aug 8, 2014 6:52:23 GMT -6
Indeed, S:reu Davinescu, I am not avoiding this question. As you know, you and I both are in a court case, and I have a slight delay in replying, as well. So, I thank you that you have waited this long. Senator Preston, I turn to you: S:reu da Lhiun: In that you have been a Citizen of our Kingdom, do you feel that you have enough experience and knowledge to represent our Province as our Senator? I ask this because I feel your grasp of OrgLaw is questionable, and of Statutory Law practically non-existent. For example, As an MC, weren't you the author of the "I very much disliked the Stasi Act (I Mud Stasi)" that at first asked the King to bestow Knighthood on Edward Snowden? Wasn't that the Bill where you attempted to allow a non-member of the Ziu to co-author your Bill? When the rules about non-Ziu members were not allowed to co-sponsor Bills, you quickly changed the Bill? Then when objections were made to granting peerage to a non-citizen (an unprecedented request , and legally questionable) that you went quiet about this Bill? And then, weren't you the MC that drastically changed the wording of that very same Bill - without submitting it to the Hopper first? I speak of this: (Hoppered) MOREOVER the nation asks our gracious King John I to consider granting to Edward Snowden a peerage for his outstanding service to humanity and for his courage to step forward and perilling (sic) his life for his cause. Was changed to: (Clarked) MOREOVER the nation asks the Ziu and the Senate to consider giving to Edward Snowden the Senatorial Medal of Honour, for his outstanding service to humanity and for his courage to step forward and peril his life for his cause. So, I repeat my question - Do you feel that you have enough experience and knowledge to represent our Province as our Senator? It is interesting, how you should be able to evaluate which knowledge exists inside of my brain, and which doesn't. Yes, I clarked a bill, in which I first asked the King to consider bestowing a Knighthood on Mr Snowden. However, the outcry from you - especially - was huge. But this was not the reason I changed my bill to ask the Senäts to, again, consider granting him the Senatorial medal of honour. I had contacted the King about this, and he told me unequivocally that he would not consider doing so. My reason to include a citizen, again with a load of crap from you, was because, well, every citizen should be able to endorse a Bill - or not - so as to send a signal out to the Cosa, and the Senäts. It has no legal bearance, since citizens are not forbidden from undersigning, or even authoring, a bill. The only Organic requirement is that an MC, or a Senator, co-sign the bill, and that it is an MC that submit the proposal to the Secretary of State. It is, furthermore, well within my rights to submit to the Secretary of State a bill that is different than the one in the Hopper, Org.IX.6.: Maybe it is you, that has a questionable grasp on the laws of our Kingdom, as everything I did was well within my rights as a Member of the Cosa?! But do not worry; I trust that, as a Member of the Royal Talossan Bar, you have been observed and proven to possess a good understanding of Talossan law - as I have been tested and proven. Am I infallible? Not at all!: I am bound to make mistakes as I go, since I am not a lawyer by school, but all the examples you have given can be refuted. Do you have any other smeary accusations?
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Aug 8, 2014 7:27:41 GMT -6
Sir Preston, you may make a short rebuttal if you so desire, of 300 words or fewer. Or if you're satisfied with the answer, we can move on.
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
Capitán of the Zouaves
Posts: 6,511
Talossan Since: 9-21-2006
Knight Since: 10-12-2010
Motto: Cuimhnichibh air na daoine bho'n d'thainig sibh
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Aug 8, 2014 8:24:20 GMT -6
Thank you Sir Alexandreu. I will try and do this in less than 4 days, also.
It is becoming apparent that S:reu da Lhiun has his own interpretation of our Org Law:
Article IX: The Secretary of State, the Hopper, and the Clark
Section 2. Any Member of the Cosâ, or Senator, or the King, shall have the right to submit legislative proposals and bills to the Secretary of State for consideration by the Ziu according to the procedures specified in this article.
It does NOT say Citizen.He is incorrect in his statement that a Citizen can present a Bill.
Section 3. Except as provided in Article IX: Sec. 7, a bill is not eligible to be voted on by the Ziu and cannot be published in the Clark unless it was first submitted to "The Hopper" as a legislative proposal. And except as provided in Article IX: Sec. 8, only legislative proposals that are in "The Hopper" and have been there for at least ten days can become eligible for publication in "The Clark" as bills. Legislative proposals that are no longer in "The Hopper" cannot become bills.
The second version of the Bill was not presented at all to the Hopper. S:reu made a midnight raid on the Clark to introduce a Bill that had not seen the light of day, much less the 10 days required by Org Law.
I suppose I need to remind S:reu da Lhiun that not only am I a Member of the Tallosan Bar, but I was also the Secretary of State for over 3 years. I have been a MC or a Senator for almost 8 years. My "grasp" of the Laws is not questionable. I cannot say the same about S:reu da Lhiun.
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