Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Aug 19, 2013 6:22:32 GMT -6
Here is the current Constitution of the ZRT. Here is the current Platform of the ZRT. If anyone wants to propose any amendments to either, now is the time to do so. Please note that the Platform is not the same as the Manifesto, which needs to be re-written for every election cycle, and can be amended by the Central Committee between conventions, while the Platform and Constitution cannot. A different thread will be opened for discussing what the next Manifesto should contain.
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Aug 22, 2013 3:57:04 GMT -6
[PROPOSAL] Amendment to point 5 of the Constitution. Point 5 should be amended to read as follows
5. The ruling body of the ZRT is the Convention. The convention shall be called together at least once in the life of every Cosâ. It may be called by the CC or by a petition of at least 5 two thirds of non-CC members. The Convention shall be composed of all Party members and any non-voting guests as the CC chooses to invite, and shall be chaired by the outgoing Party President.
(addition in bold)
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Óïn Ursüm
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Post by Óïn Ursüm on Aug 22, 2013 11:21:54 GMT -6
I have some proposals for this. I'll write them up pronto.
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Post by Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir on Aug 22, 2013 11:24:18 GMT -6
I would say that The CC needs a paragraph which is to this effect:-
"The CC shall give a report to the body of the ZRT party to inform them of any changes they have made in the CC metting, along with minuets and a summary of the event of the meeting of the CC. The report shall be given by a means of communication opted for by the ZRT party member. Also any major Changes to the manifesto made by the CC which could not wait to be changed shall remain in place until a special vote by the members can ratify the major change to the party's manifesto, this shall be applicable to major policy changes as well. A vote must take place within a month of the change implimented by the CC. If the ZRT party votes against the measures the policy chall be instantly repealed. A major change shall be any drastic change to the manifesto which changes the partys approach in a fundemental way."
im not sure on the exact wording or details of this proposal but i think something of this effect should be added.
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Aug 22, 2013 11:50:32 GMT -6
I would say that The CC needs a paragraph which is to this effect:- "The CC shall give a report to the body of the ZRT party to inform them of any changes they have made in the CC metting, along with minuets and a summary of the event of the meeting of the CC. The report shall be given by a means of communication opted for by the ZRT party member. Also any major Changes to the manifesto made by the CC which could not wait to be changed shall remain in place until a special vote by the members can ratify the major change to the party's manifesto, this shall be applicable to major policy changes as well. A vote must take place within a month of the change implimented by the CC. If the ZRT party votes against the measures the policy chall be instantly repealed. A major change shall be any drastic change to the manifesto which changes the partys approach in a fundemental way." im not sure on the exact wording or details of this proposal but i think something of this effect should be added. The way it works now, the CC is in constant session so there's no practical way of minuting these meetings.
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Post by Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir on Aug 22, 2013 12:12:17 GMT -6
Seeing as the meetings of the CC, i presume, are all on a text based meeting basis, it shouldnt be too difficult to make regular Transcripts of what is said in the meetings or even to put them in minuet form. If its done regulary. Otherwise the CC is bacically making all the decisions behind closed doors and the members might not find out whats been changed. At least in this case there would be greater transparency in the party also thish should avoid a misuse of power by the CC (not like that is likely but it is possible how things are)
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Aug 22, 2013 14:35:02 GMT -6
So what you want is a notification whenever something is changed in the manifesto? Because if that's all you want, I'm pretty sure it can be arranged. I notified the party every time anyway.
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Post by Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir on Aug 22, 2013 18:52:47 GMT -6
Its not just that. Its bacically what i proposed in the ammenment. Mainly just regular updates on whats going on in the leadership of the party. Thats the purpose behind the proposal. Which could probably be better written. Bit im just wanting a bit clearer transparency as we dont know what gets discussed in the central commitee and i belive as party members we should have a right to know.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Aug 22, 2013 23:33:28 GMT -6
How "regular"? There are weeks at a time when nothing goes on in the leadership, given the slow and slothful nature of Talossan politics.
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Post by Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir on Aug 23, 2013 4:05:58 GMT -6
Oh i thought that i said in the proposal. Sorry. Anyway i thought (but didnt) i put every two months then i thought there should be enough activity in two months at least to warrent it. But it could be 3 months. Either is fine.
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Óïn Ursüm
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Post by Óïn Ursüm on Aug 23, 2013 5:47:03 GMT -6
[PROPOSAL] Ursüm (Wishy-Washy Moderate) Amendment PackageTHAT Plank 4 of the Platform be replaced with the following text:AND FURTHERMORE THAT Plank 7 of the Platform be replaced with the following text:(Explanatory memorandum: A lot of our republicanism also comes under the 'democratic' part of democratic dirigisme. These democratic reforms will be more accessible to the public if they are presented as such. By casting republicanism as a general tendency towards accountability and community government, rather than attacking the constitutional monarchy (the two are not *necessarily* opposed in my view), our more immediate plans for reform may gain more acceptance.)
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Aug 26, 2013 23:21:23 GMT -6
I'm minded to put all the proposals to the vote (perhaps after rewriting Evan's a bit) on Friday, Talossan Standard Time. Any objections?
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Aug 28, 2013 4:48:39 GMT -6
No objections here.
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Post by Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir on Aug 28, 2013 5:24:30 GMT -6
Ive no objections. Though i do applogise for not being great at writing proposals etc etc
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