Brett Nunn
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Post by Brett Nunn on Aug 22, 2013 19:45:35 GMT -6
Alright. Thank you very much!
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Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă
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Post by Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă on Aug 24, 2013 13:24:12 GMT -6
I will draw up a draft arms this weekend. However, I'm not sure the foreign letter you requested will be one we can accommodate. I will check with the Dean of the College on that. Yes, it is allowed. We have allowed the Om on other CoAs, and Harvard University's CoA for example has Latin as part of it's design. Maybe I'm confused, but what do you mean by "Om?" The symbol I am not even remotely sure how I would represent that. I guess I'll have to hand draw it but how would I write up the blazon?
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Aug 24, 2013 14:58:10 GMT -6
Yes, it is allowed. We have allowed the Om on other CoAs, and Harvard University's CoA for example has Latin as part of it's design. Maybe I'm confused, but what do you mean by "Om?" The symbol I am not even remotely sure how I would represent that. I guess I'll have to hand draw it but how would I write up the blazon? See Ben Ard's CoA....
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Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă
Puisne (Associate) Justice of the Uppermost Court
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Post by Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă on Aug 24, 2013 20:43:40 GMT -6
Fear not, I am working on your arms but I am having issues finding a graphic representation of "eonneo." If you have one, that would be awesome. Otherwise, the hunt continues.
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Aug 24, 2013 20:49:27 GMT -6
Fear not, I am working on your arms but I am having issues finding a graphic representation of "eonneo." If you have one, that would be awesome. Otherwise, the hunt continues. We are looking for a Heraldic representation of the word - that's what hanging us up.
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Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă
Puisne (Associate) Justice of the Uppermost Court
Fraichetz dels punts, es non dels mürs
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Post by Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă on Aug 24, 2013 20:53:51 GMT -6
In order to prepare these arms correctly, we need to take this in order. First, I need to know a background color for the shield. Once I have that, I will ask for the next piece of information.
Thanks
Additionally, I would ask that unless someone is a member of the college or the petitioner, please refrain from replying to posts inside the college forums as it tends to clutter things up and make the job even more challenging.
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Aug 26, 2013 8:26:05 GMT -6
We need some further clarification on your request. - What base tincture (color) do you want for the background of the CoA?
- As for the Wings - we can't use the RAF wings ( they've been taken) and a crown is right out. Do you have any other suggestions?
- What colour do you want the Wings? Remember, they need to contrast with the backgound.
- Same goes for the language symbol.
- Is there different charge you would accept over the single word? Like book, a quill, etc?
If you could let us know, that would be very helpful!
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Brett Nunn
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Post by Brett Nunn on Aug 26, 2013 19:54:00 GMT -6
Background-White Please. Wings- Any set of flight wings will do fine, it doesn't necessarily have to be RAF. All of these are fine. www.bing.com/images/search?q=flight+wings&FORM=HDRSC2Wing Colour- Gold is preferred, if that's not doable, red is fine with me also. Language Symbol- I'm assuming you're asking what colour I'd like the language symbol to me? If so, gold or red will work with that also, I believe. Different Charge- Yeah, if you can't find the 언너 , that's not a big deal. I don't know if the Monterey Institute for International Studies emblem is doable (just the flags, not the surrounding text. www.bing.com/images/search?q=monterey+institute+of+International+studies+symbol&qs=n&form=QBIR&pq=monterey+institute+of+international+studies+symbol&sc=0-43&sp=-1&sk= Also, the UN flag/symbol would do fine. If you're looking for something really basic though, a blank flag would work. Is that helpful at all? (I'm trying, just new to all this.)
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Aug 26, 2013 20:39:30 GMT -6
Background-White Please. Wings- Any set of flight wings will do fine, it doesn't necessarily have to be RAF. All of these are fine. www.bing.com/images/search?q=flight+wings&FORM=HDRSC2Wing Colour- Gold is preferred, if that's not doable, red is fine with me also. Language Symbol- I'm assuming you're asking what colour I'd like the language symbol to me? If so, gold or red will work with that also, I believe. Different Charge- Yeah, if you can't find the 언너 , that's not a big deal. I don't know if the Monterey Institute for International Studies emblem is doable (just the flags, not the surrounding text. www.bing.com/images/search?q=monterey+institute+of+International+studies+symbol&qs=n&form=QBIR&pq=monterey+institute+of+international+studies+symbol&sc=0-43&sp=-1&sk= Also, the UN flag/symbol would do fine. If you're looking for something really basic though, a blank flag would work. Is that helpful at all? (I'm trying, just new to all this.) I think we are having a problem with terms - "Flight Wings" are a modern depiction of Birds Wings . They aren't a Heraldic devices. We can't use them. The background of White (Argent) is fine for the background. But the Wings can't be Gold ( Or) - that's a "metal on metal". Gules we can do. I'll let the Fellow research the word/symbol. We can't use the UN symbol - they have dibs on that! And yes, you are being very helpful!
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Brett Nunn
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Post by Brett Nunn on Aug 26, 2013 23:14:42 GMT -6
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Aug 26, 2013 23:23:35 GMT -6
Well, we might be able to Blazon that... What I am trying to convey is that you can't use a symbol that is already used exclusively by another CoA ( group). The Concentric circles of Blue, White and Red are the domain of the RAF. You can use something similar, but you can't use the exact same charge.
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Brett Nunn
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Post by Brett Nunn on Aug 26, 2013 23:37:13 GMT -6
Alright. I get it. I'll brainstorm tonight and get back to you tomorrow afternoon probably.
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Brett Nunn
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Post by Brett Nunn on Aug 26, 2013 23:38:33 GMT -6
But first, let me get down everything I need to think about. Something in place of the Circles and Flight Wings, A symbol in place of the "eonneo" characters/UN flag/MIIS logo. Is that correct?
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Aug 27, 2013 8:49:02 GMT -6
But first, let me get down everything I need to think about. Something in place of the Circles and Flight Wings, A symbol in place of the "eonneo" characters/UN flag/MIIS logo. Is that correct? You can still use circles and wings - just not the exact duplicates of the RAF ( no crowns). The word change was just a suggestion.
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Brett Nunn
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Post by Brett Nunn on Aug 27, 2013 22:22:44 GMT -6
-Alright, so in regard to the wings, is this generic enough? www.bing.com/images/search?q=flight+wings&FORM=HDRSC2#view=detail&id=7E347A9F4C285123CCBC5C74B6BBA93212205718&selectedIndex=110-For the circles (if the wings still aren't doable), can three concentric circles be done, with red as the outermost ring, blue for the middle, and red again for the centre? So, kinda what I'm envisioning is the shield being white, being split in two with a red line going from the upper left corner diagonally to the right. On the left/bottom side being the red, blue, and, red circles or white (can they be white on the white background, separated only by a black outline, similar to the hound on your CoA?) flight wings (whichever is easier or more acceptable) and on the right/ upper side being the character, and if that isn't doable, just a solid red flag. Is that doable?
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