Jelly and icecream

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

So, in the memory of the leader who destroyed Northern England's mining communities and broke the back of the workers' movement, who turned the Falklands conflict into a shooting war and many needless deaths, let 11 Irish hunger strikers die just to look like a tough guy, called Nelson Mandela a terrorist while buddying up with Pinochet (and Robert Mugabe), and brought in a law banning English schoolteachers from even mentioning homosexuality, at the height of the AIDS crisis...

... I suggest we get an old fashioned staking going on. It's the only way to be sure.

[Ián Tamorán S.H.]

There is passion for, and there is passion against. Alas, these two sides can never allow the other to be considered anything but despicable.
As with most human opinions, they are both wrong, and both right.

De mortuis nil nisi bonum...

...even if that means having to bite one's tongue.

[Ián Tamorán S.H.]

... and, Miestrâ Schivâ, you have phrased it beautifully!

[Sir C. M. Siervicül]

Apr 8, 2013 14:50:18 GMT -6 Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN said:

... I suggest we get an old fashioned staking going on. It's the only way to be sure.

In an alternate reality, not too far sideways from this one, an FRA (Fiovan Republican Army) covert action cell slips across the border -- its destination, the UK.

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

The problem is Fiôvâns tend to be great gourmands and would therefore probably fail as hunger strikers.

[D. N. Vercáriâ]

Oh, I guess they like to strike hunger whenever and whereever they can.

[Jum Txec Tric'hardsëfiglheu]

What Thatcher's death has reminded us is that the U.K is still very much divided on issues such as individual responsibility and society, the public and private sector job creation, high/low taxes for the rich and the welfare state and so on...

This polarisation of views has never disappeared, and while I very much dislike so many Thatcherite policies, she never compromised and once she set out to do something she did it. The left could do with someone like her in this sense.

[Ián B. Anglatzarâ]

Apr 9, 2013 5:31:29 GMT -6 Jum Txec Tric'hardsëfiglheu said:

she never compromised and once she set out to do something she did it. The left could do with someone like her in this sense.

A politician who refuses to compromise? No thanks, then we'd end up in the same political antagonistic, polarised mess as the USA. Not compromising is not a virtue in a politician.

[Jum Txec Tric'hardsëfiglheu]

Apr 9, 2013 6:08:48 GMT -6 Ián B. Anglatzarâ said:

Apr 9, 2013 5:31:29 GMT -6 Jum Txec Tric'hardsëfiglheu said:

she never compromised and once she set out to do something she did it. The left could do with someone like her in this sense.

A politician who refuses to compromise? No thanks, then we'd end up in the same political antagonistic, polarised mess as the USA. Not compromising is not a virtue in a politician.

Is the US really that polarised though? Democrats and Republicans seem to work together much more frequently than Labourites and Conservatives.

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

The problem is that everyone likes a hard-ass non-compromiser if it's on THEIR side.