[PROPOSAL] First Provincial Honours Bill

[C. Carlüs Xheraltescù]

1. The Provincial Government of Fiova may confer an honour, Stalwart of the Four Stars, upon any of Talossa's citizens that are considered eligible by provincial law.

2. Talossan citizens may be considered eligible if they are former citizens of the Talossan Republic, or if they have displayed exceptional service in promoting the importance of Republican heritage in the re-united Talossa.

3. The honour must be conferred by Executive Order of the Cunstaval, though the General Assembly may compel the Cunstaval to confer the aforementioned honour by resolution.

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C. Carlüs Xheraltescu, Capitan of Fiova

[D. N. Vercáriâ]

I'm undecided. On the one hand it may be a good idea to honour excellent service for the province, on the other hand honours may cause negative feelings like envy and whatnot in those who are not honoured.

On a second thought, I'm leaning a bit towards voting against a respective law, should it get further than being a mere proposal. Assuming that there are citizens who are officially deemed better than others is kind of against the egalitarian spirit of the Republic

[Audrada Rôibeardét]

I'm going to abstain.

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

Yeah, you always abstain, Dav, it's your way of showing that you're tougher than us.

My issues are twofold: (a) the idea of a medal mainly restricted to ex-Republicans (as opposed to any Fiôvân) raises eyebrows, and (b) the Fiôvân government is the guardian of the cultural heritage of the Republic, but it might be considered out of order for it to have a medal to promote republicanism per se. There are monarchist Fiôvâns, after all. (Perhaps it should be a ZRT award instead!)

[C. Carlüs Xheraltescù]

An award restricted to former citizens of the Republic serves to formalise a citizen's role in a proud part of Talossan heritage. We need to remember that one day, Fiova may no longer be the province of former Republicans.

And the important thing to remember about exceptional service in promoting the heritage of Talossan Republicanism is that it isn't an award for republicans - it's an award for people who have protected the republican culture. One such person could be our Cunstaval who was a key person in carving out our province.

[Jum Txec Tric'hardsëfiglheu]

An award for former Republic citizens is uncomforting... I agree with Dieter's remarks and since I think this unnecessary would not support it.

[C. Carlüs Xheraltescù]

Explain to me why it is "uncomforting".

[Jum Txec Tric'hardsëfiglheu]

It seems to me a needless act to dish out honours in such a way to those who were former Republic citizens, it just doesn't seem enough somehow. Then again maybe I'm just mean and think honours should be reserved for astonishing accomplishments. Also, while it is perfectly natural for Fiova to maintain and cherish Republican heritage, it may serve to highlight differences between our peoples that do not need to be highlighted.

[C. Carlüs Xheraltescù]

The purpose of the honour isn't to reward astonishing accomplishments but to enshrine the work each of us has put in to preserving Republican heritage (that is, the heritage and legacy of the Talossan Republic, not republicansim). For those, extra-Talossan-Republic citizens that have made astonishing contributions to preserving that part of Talossan culture, the honour can also be conferred upon them.

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

Okay, that makes a bit more sense. You should make it clear that it's reviênsadéir culture that we're giving awards for, rather than Republican politics.

Deet: hooray for egalitarianism, but prizes reward special effort. I think some people should be encouraged with prizes so the rest of us can be dozy.

[Audrada Rôibeardét]

I don't need to be honoured just because I'm a Republican. I WILL accept an award for being AWESOME, if anyone was thinking about giving me such an award.

[Ián B. Anglatzarâ]

I'm against this as it is worded now. Strike "are former citizens of the Talossan Republic, or if" and change "Republican heritage" to "heritage of the Republic of Talossa", and I'm not against it any longer.

I won't promise to vote Për, though. I am as always of two minds on the inherent risk of conflict between "remembering the Republic" and "integrate into the Kingdom". The first of these two might so easily slip over to "stay apart as former Republican Talossans".

[D. N. Vercáriâ]

Sept 3, 2012 17:44:44 GMT -6 Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN said:

Okay, that makes a bit more sense. You should make it clear that it's reviênsadéir culture that we're giving awards for, rather than Republican politics.

Deet: hooray for egalitarianism, but prizes reward special effort. I think some people should be encouraged with prizes so the rest of us can be dozy.

At least in politics the best award is being elected into an office and given the opportunity to dare something worthy. If it would be an award for outstanding cultural achievements, that's quite a different thing.

[C. Carlüs Xheraltescù]

In part that's exactly what this bill serves to do.

[C. Carlüs Xheraltescù]

1. The Provincial Government of Fiova may confer an honour, Stalwart of the Four Stars, upon any of Talossa's citizens that are considered eligible by provincial law.

2. Talossan citizens may be considered eligible if they are former citizens of the Talossan Republic, or if they have displayed exceptional service in promoting the importance of Republican heritage in the re-united Talossa the Talossan Republic's heritage as part of Talossan culture.

3. The honour must be conferred by Executive Order of the Cunstaval, though the General Assembly may compel the Cunstaval to confer the aforementioned honour by resolution.

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Words in bold are in addition to the original text of the bill whilst words with a strike through them would be removed if the above amendment were to be adopted to the bill.

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