Capt. Sir Mick Preston
Capitán of the Zouaves
Posts: 6,511
Talossan Since: 9-21-2006
Knight Since: 10-12-2010
Motto: Cuimhnichibh air na daoine bho'n d'thainig sibh
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Jan 5, 2008 21:12:40 GMT -6
Ahem.
What defines "inactive on the Witt" ?
I'm not sure where I saw that guideline.
Can someone point out to me , where those definitions are?
Some have over 1,201 posts, and have been here 3 months.
Compared to some, I might be inactive because I barely have 1,073 post over 17 months. And to be honest, I rack up most of mine during elections. But to others, I'm a chatterbox.
Lord Hooligan doesn't even have 1400 posts, and he has been here since Jul 27, 2005. Lazy braggart.
Sir Trotxâ Betiñéir - He hasn't broken the 1K mark. he's been here since Oct 17, 2005. He's practically dead.
That King John guy? 1,123 posts since May 6, 2005, Slackard.
Let's toss the lot of them.
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Please. Do not judge the Kingdom by YOUR criteria. Find out what the Kingdom's guidelines are, and then offer comment.
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Post by Breneir Itravilatx on Jan 5, 2008 22:11:52 GMT -6
Oh for the love of Jeebus.
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
Capitán of the Zouaves
Posts: 6,511
Talossan Since: 9-21-2006
Knight Since: 10-12-2010
Motto: Cuimhnichibh air na daoine bho'n d'thainig sibh
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Jan 5, 2008 22:15:36 GMT -6
Exactly.
I am tiring of those that have newly arrived on our shores attempting to dictate what the protocols of the Kingdom should be.
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Post by Breneir Itravilatx on Jan 5, 2008 22:18:23 GMT -6
One thing we can all agree on is that Talossa has pretty shores.
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
Capitán of the Zouaves
Posts: 6,511
Talossan Since: 9-21-2006
Knight Since: 10-12-2010
Motto: Cuimhnichibh air na daoine bho'n d'thainig sibh
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Jan 5, 2008 22:23:54 GMT -6
I'm gonna withold my snark on that, Breneir, because I respect ya.
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Post by Breneir Itravilatx on Jan 5, 2008 22:27:47 GMT -6
You have my unconditioned thanks.
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Vit Caçeir
"I hated being AG so much I fled as far from it as literally possible."
Posts: 810
Talossan Since: 11-19-2007
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Post by Vit Caçeir on Jan 5, 2008 22:31:02 GMT -6
Some LRT members may find this hard to believe, but there is no statutory requirement that a citizen be active on Wittenberg after making it through the citizenship process. There is more to citizenship than just having an inflated Witt post count. Now, where did I question her citizenship? I'm referring directly to her position as the provincial Head of State. S:rda DeWinter is an accomplished author, and a world traveler. She's witty, intelligent, and one of the blondest people I know. While you suggest that she might be too dumb to get on Witt, or to apathetic, we might want to consider that the amount of jabbering on this board can be an obstacle to a busy person. I never suggested she was "dumb". I simply questioned why she's not a frequent visitor on the Witt. You seem to assume I'm insulting her or something. I'm not. ...remains in good standing with the Chancery, the Kingdom, and it's citizens. One advantage over me apparently. Contrary to what many people appear to believe, I don't think that total post count is a "requirement" of any sort.... nor did I ever say that "because she hasn't had a gazillion posts on the Witt, she shouldn't be Cunstaval"... my only concern is the fact that the Corporative Chamber seems to be completely inactive, and the Cunstaval/Maestro appeared to be inactive as well.... Perhaps I misworded my previous statements... I should have said "inactive on the Mussolini sub-board". (Because certain people wish to be very critical and nitpicky) Capt. Preston, you seem to have jumped to conclusions.... not all of us believe that you need a horrendous amount of posts in order to be considered "active".... since you ask, I consider "inactivity" as not how many posts you have, but how long it's been since your last post. S:rda Dewinter's last post was on Mar. 7th, 2007.... no one is going to deny that is a considerable amount of time. Granted, she has many things going on in her life, which is of course totally acceptable, but the Cunstaval is intended to be the provincial "Head of State", and when provincial apathy (since I know you're going to deabte me on this.... S:reu Vürinalt are not the only ones who believe it to be so, read more threads on the Mussolini board) is such a problem in Mussolini, it'd be nice to see the Head of State trying to help solve the problems of the province. And since you made reference Capt. Preston, what IS the Kingdom's guideline, according to you? I seem to hear a lot of people saying that such guidelines are nonexistent. I am tiring of those that have newly arrived on our shores attempting to dictate what the protocols of the Kingdom should be. I'm not trying to "dictate protocol".... I'm trying to work to solve a problem our province has... and I've yet to see you come up with any better solutions, Mick.
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
Capitán of the Zouaves
Posts: 6,511
Talossan Since: 9-21-2006
Knight Since: 10-12-2010
Motto: Cuimhnichibh air na daoine bho'n d'thainig sibh
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Jan 5, 2008 23:02:26 GMT -6
My good friend.
I am really. honestly glad you take me to task for my words. I am heartened that those who have have become citizens as of late, have just as much concern about the Kingdom as I do!
Mar. 7th, 2007 S:rda DeWinter's last post (reference point).
Let's do some calculations, shall we?
I am 17680 days old. S:rda DeWinter posted 304 days ago.
That is less that 1/48th of my life
You are 5696 days old. She posted in 1/15th of your life.
I have sweatshirts older than you.
I'll let you do that math.
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
Capitán of the Zouaves
Posts: 6,511
Talossan Since: 9-21-2006
Knight Since: 10-12-2010
Motto: Cuimhnichibh air na daoine bho'n d'thainig sibh
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Jan 5, 2008 23:04:46 GMT -6
So...
I debate "no one is going to deny that is a considerable amount of time".
It's barely a blip on my radar, when it comes to time.
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Vit Caçeir
"I hated being AG so much I fled as far from it as literally possible."
Posts: 810
Talossan Since: 11-19-2007
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Post by Vit Caçeir on Jan 6, 2008 1:31:38 GMT -6
I am 17680 days old. S:rda DeWinter posted 304 days ago. 304 days.... if a United States Governor (closes equivalent to Mussolinian Custaval) made no remark or declaration on the goings-on in their state for 304 days, or took no action in the administrative process of the state, it would probably cause a few political problems in the state, wouldn't it?
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Jan 6, 2008 7:54:28 GMT -6
Zing!
Anyway...I don't understand the big deal. If Mussolini wants to have elections, then um... Mussolini has elections. If S:da (not S:rda, it's S:da) Dewinter wins them, fine! If she doesn't...fine! I really don't understand...that's what elections are...after a period of time, the people can get rid of their leaders and install new ones, or keep their old leaders if they wish...
Also, I find it funny that Sir Trotxa accused Éovart of saying that S:da Dewinter was "too dumb" to access witt. When he never said that...if I had said that, every RUMP member within 10 miles would have been all over me and this thread would be five pages long. But I'm going to pass on this opportunity to sling mud, because this is the new Zen Dreu, as opposed to old Dreu, and instead will simply take note of this occasion for the next time anything like this happens to one of my friends.
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
Capitán of the Zouaves
Posts: 6,511
Talossan Since: 9-21-2006
Knight Since: 10-12-2010
Motto: Cuimhnichibh air na daoine bho'n d'thainig sibh
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Jan 6, 2008 8:49:20 GMT -6
And when did this become a State that had a United States Governor?
Stop judging the Kingdom by other's criteria
Try to start judging things around here by the Laws and rules around here.
304 days may be a lot in your short life. That's not our problem.
It's not MY position to dictate protocol, or determine how long is "inactivity".
I'm quite happy that everyone is all fired up to change Mussolini . And once you gather as a group, AFTER the General Elections, and start making changes, then YOU can determine the definitions for your Province.
But, for the love of Pete... realize you are new here, that this Kingdom has been around for 20 years, and has functioned quite well without EITHER of us being here.
Oh, and Dreu?
"Zing" this.
Edited for clarification
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Jan 6, 2008 8:58:09 GMT -6
Ya know Mick, you should really give an explanation when you edit things. I mean about 3/4 of that post wasn't there when I just looked at that ::flicks eyebrows::
EDIT: spelling
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EM Vürinalt
Citizen since 12-20-2007
Parletz, am?c, en entrez
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jan 6, 2008 10:39:38 GMT -6
Okay, children, shushums and go to time out.
This is getting way to convoluted and out of control.
Let me clarify- S:da deWinter is active.
There. We know she's active in some way or another. One doesn't have to be active on Witt to be an active citizen. There, that's for all of you to chew on.
Now, S:reu Caçeir is right in the since that it is somewhat strange that S:da deWinter hasn't made any governmental administration that all of Mussolini knows for some months.
Building on that, Capt. Preston is right in that we are new here and we can't just be whimsical in our changes and we can't judge other citizens on any basis whatsoever.
So just let's calm down, everybody's on edge and there's no reason to be at all.
Capt. Preston, I'd like to point out that the changes we are talking about making are simply ones that have been floating around Mussolini for some time. We're not overhauling, we're just trying to get some legislation passed that have been proposed for some time now.
Speaking for the people involved in this, I'd like to say, we're not setting out to change Talossa or Mussolini for that matter, we're trying to jump start some Provincial activity that will take a while to do (months, maybe a year or more). We can't do this all at the same time, if we do, nothing will happen and we'll be right back to where we were before.
So I ask everybody arguing on this thread to realize two things. deWinter is NOT inactive as a citizen, and us new folk aren't on a vendetta to change everything.
I respect Talossa's history, one of the reasons I decided to become a citizen, and we aren't out to change it, because, simply, you can't change history. Instead, we hope to become good active Talossan's throughout the years and hope to add to the depth and bredth of Talossa's history.
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
Capitán of the Zouaves
Posts: 6,511
Talossan Since: 9-21-2006
Knight Since: 10-12-2010
Motto: Cuimhnichibh air na daoine bho'n d'thainig sibh
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Jan 6, 2008 11:49:25 GMT -6
And please understand - I am not suggesting that change should never be made.
What I am simply trying to say, is that at this very moment, no change can be made. In 9 days, that will change.
The General Election will be over. Amendments to the Org law will have been passed. People will have voted, and Political parties will offer Members to be seated in the Cosa.
And, also citizens of Provinces can begin to make changes in their own Provinces. They can have current Governors removed from office, and new ones installed. They can start having Elections. They can start to debate, and enact changes. They can make their own rules and laws for their Provinces, and make their own definitions of terms.
In 9 days.
And I'll be the first to help them after that.
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