Danihel Laurieir
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Post by Danihel Laurieir on Apr 11, 2006 19:01:08 GMT -6
OATH AND PROMISE RECIEVED FROM WITNESS
In an email sent to the Cort late yesterday, witness Vincent Manzelli, called by the complainant affirmed the judicial oath and made a promise of integrity. See below.
1. JUDICIAL OATH
Please raise your right hand and read aloud the following oath:
As you stand before this Cort, before the entire Kingdom of Talossa, before the whole world, before any God you may worship, and before your own conscience, do you Vincent Manzelli openly and solemnly swear that the testimony you give will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?
Now reply (if you do in fact want to so swear) in the following manner (inserting your name where the blank is):
Yes, I ____vincent manzelli________, do so swear.
2. INTEGRITY PROMISE
Please raise your right hand and read aloud—using the stern, stentorian voice of a wise judge—the following question:
You have sworn that your testimony to this Cort will be true. Do you Vincent Manzelli also promise that while you are giving your testimony to this Cort you will not communicate in any form (in conversation, via email or telephone, for example) with any person except those whom the Cort explicitly allows? (In your case, as a witness called by the complainant, this means that as you give your testimony to the Cort, you will respond only to questions from the complainant (Sir John Woolley) and the three Justices of the Cort and will not communicate with anyone else, including the defendant (Ups Antonio Martuc)). Do you promise this?
Now reply (if in fact you do want to so promise) in the following manner (inserting your name where the blank is):
Yes, I____vincent manzelli________, do so promise.
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Danihel Laurieir
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Post by Danihel Laurieir on Apr 11, 2006 19:05:12 GMT -6
CORT AUTHORIZES COMPLAINANT TO INTERVIEW WITNESS
The Cort gives permission to the complainant to interview the witness. The Cort asks the witness to bear in mind his oath and promise and to reply promptly to the complainant's questions. Both parties are reminded that all three justices and the defendant are to be copied on all email exchanged.
Signed,
Danihél Lauriéir Acting Senior Justice of the Cort pü Înalt
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King John
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Post by King John on Apr 11, 2006 19:48:31 GMT -6
COMPLAINANT'S WITNESS LIST
My Lord, Your Honours —
At this time, my plan is to call some or all of the following people as witnesses; if I see the need (as testimony progresses) for any additional witnesses, I'll let the Cort know as soon as possible:
1. Vincent Manzelli 2. Angelina Maria Marzullo 3. Brad Holmes 4. Joseph Walkland 5. Tomás al Bosc
In addition, I plan to testify myself; and it may prove necessary or advisable to call an expert witness to testify about certain technical aspects of email.
— John Woolley, UrN, Complainant
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Danihel Laurieir
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Post by Danihel Laurieir on Apr 11, 2006 20:34:23 GMT -6
CORT RESPONSE TO COMPLAINANT'S MOTION & WITNESS INSTRUCTION
The Cort will grant the complainant's motion.
While the Cort has heard from the witness (albeit not in the most timely fashion), the Cort is becoming increasing convinced that deadlines are crucial.[Gavel banging. "Silence in the Gallery.!" Gavel banging.] If the witness does not answer the complainant's questions by this time (10:30 pm Eastern Time) tomorrow (Wednesday, April 12, 2006), the Cort will most likely be very favorably inclined to grant a motion from the complainant to disallow any further testimony on any party's behalf from Mr. Manzelli.
Both parties are informed that the Cort's most active hours will generally be between 8 pm and 11 pm weekdays.
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Post by Ups Antônio Martüc on Apr 11, 2006 20:42:01 GMT -6
Defense objects to this so-called future "technical witness". There is no way whatsoever that someone could be proven to specialize in what ever "technical" details Mr. Woolley refers to, so he can lie for all we know about the background of a future "technical witness". Also, I have taken note of his witness list and I'd like this list to be the final draft of who is appering on behalf of the Plaintiff. If he plans on dragging more people into the trial, then I don't really see a point of him furnishing a witness list if it isn't going to be accurate.
I also hope you recieved my objection via email to the odd questioning. There are privacy laws and since Mr. Manzelli isn't a citizen of Talossa nor a prospective citizen, I don't see any reason for him to give Mr. Woolley all of his contact information.
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Danihel Laurieir
Citizen since 7-1981; Count since 2-23-2006
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Post by Danihel Laurieir on Apr 11, 2006 21:09:13 GMT -6
RESPONSE TO DEFENDANT'S OBJECTIONS
The Cort will allow the complainant to call a technical witness, and will--presumably along with the defendant--be especially alert to questions of competence, authority and provenance.
The Cort will also allow the complainant some flexiblity in calling witnesses. The Cort will, of course, grant the defendant plenty of extra time for every witness that the complainant calls that is not on his list. If the complainant introduces many witnesses that are not on his list, this case will probably not conclude until this time next year.
The Cort instructs the defendant to please lodge any objections about the complainant's questioning of the witness in emails for the present time. The defendant is reminded that a complete transcript of the email exchanges involving the complainant, the witness, the defendant and the justices will be published here when complete.
Signed,
Danihél Lauriéir Acting Senior Justice of the Cort pü Înalt
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Post by Ups Antônio Martüc on Apr 11, 2006 21:22:55 GMT -6
Agknowledged
I apologize, I thought what he sent only came to me as I didn't see any CC emails to Vincent nor the Judge's. I think my witness list will be very very long, especially my cross examinations. You'll see.
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King John
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Post by King John on Apr 12, 2006 10:55:03 GMT -6
May it please the Cort:
I thought it might be courteous to let everyone know about upcoming scheduling problems.
Tomorrow is my youngest son’s birthday; the family is celebrating this evening. And this is Holy Week, which means that Thursday and Saturday evenings (and Friday mid-day, and Sunday morning) are largely taken up by liturgical responsibilities that can be neither postponed nor evaded. I will respond as quickly as I can to anything that happens in this trial, but there may be some delays.
I will be on vacation, travelling in Europe and unavailable, from April 20 through May 6; so (unless things here speed up a lot) I’ll need to ask a continuance over that period.
– John Woolley, UrN, Complainant
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Post by Ups Antônio Martüc on Apr 12, 2006 11:00:44 GMT -6
I just recieved notice that Vincent Manzelli is attempting to sign into his bored.com email address, but it seems the bored.com server is temporarily disconnected. You'll recieve the answers to your questions shortly.
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Sir Samuhel Tecladeir
Citizen since 8-22-2005; Knight since 10-23-2006
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Post by Sir Samuhel Tecladeir on Apr 12, 2006 13:34:02 GMT -6
In addition to the Senior Judge's remarks, I think it is customary that the defense call in their own technical expert to testify on behalf of the defense.
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Danihel Laurieir
Citizen since 7-1981; Count since 2-23-2006
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Post by Danihel Laurieir on Apr 12, 2006 18:35:19 GMT -6
WARNING FROM THE BENCH THE DEFENDANT
The Cort does not like the fact that you and witness Manzelli seem to be in communcation about this case--communication that the witness promised he would not engage in.
The excuse about the temporarily disconnected server had better be true.
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Post by Ups Antônio Martüc on Apr 12, 2006 18:39:30 GMT -6
He told me to make a post in here, he didn't really say anything else to me. He couldn't get into his email account, but he already answered the first round of questioning after he logged in.
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Danihel Laurieir
Citizen since 7-1981; Count since 2-23-2006
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Post by Danihel Laurieir on Apr 13, 2006 19:35:58 GMT -6
CORT REMOVES MANZELLI FROM THE WITNESS STAND
Mr. Manzelli, a witness called by the complainant, has stopped responding to questions from the Cort and the complainant.
The Cort has lost its patience.
As of this moment, the Cort bars all testimony from Mr. Manzelli. Mr. Manzelli is no longer in the witness stand, nor is he allowed to return.
Neither the complainant nor the defendant may call him as a witness.
He wastes too much time.
The Cort will consider reversing or revising this ruling upon hearing a compelling and promptly made argument (via email) from the complainant or the defendant to do so.
Danihél Lauriéir Acting Senior Justice of the Cort pü Înalt
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Danihel Laurieir
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Post by Danihel Laurieir on Apr 13, 2006 19:55:49 GMT -6
COMPLAINANT IS INVITED TO PROCEED
The Cort asks that the Complainant please proceed to present his case.
AN ASIDE TO BOTH PARTIES...
Given how long the Complainant's witness list is, given the Complainant's desire to suspend the Cort's deliberations for a period, and given how long this proceeding has already taken, the Cort asks--and will endeavor to assist--both parties to present only the most important and relevant arguments, evidence and witnesses. The Cort will not be impressed with an avalanche of redundant evidence, nor with multiple witnesses making the same point.
The Cort also would like to remind one party in particular that every question from the other party does not require an objection. Think about whether the question is fair before you blurt out "objection!"
This proceeding must take place in real time and in competition with demands from the real world. The Cort acknowledges that it acted slowly initially but much of that initial phase was devoted to developing--from scratch--fair hearing procedures and rules. Those rules may perhaps be overly complex, but for now we'll stick with them. Going forward, let's all do our part to keep this a Talossa-sized Cort proceeding.
Signed,
Danihél Lauriéir Acting Senior Justice of the Cort pü Înalt
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King John
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Post by King John on Apr 13, 2006 21:59:18 GMT -6
Thank you, My Lord. I will shortly call my next witness; I didn't think I'd need to do so this soon, and none of them were ready. This shouldn't take very long.
— John Woolley, UrN, Complainant
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