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Post by Ups Antônio Martüc on Jan 26, 2006 14:48:16 GMT -6
Well the only thing is we should not decide to become mormans. But all ears to staying in the Catholic faith or Atheist views of those who do. I think the government shouldn't even recognize religion and it should be left to the individual. Seperation of church & state! Government is good. Religion is good. Religious minded government? Bad.
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Post by Evan Campbell on Jan 26, 2006 16:47:07 GMT -6
Tell that to Iran, the Celrics of the musliam faith there run the country.
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Post by Ups Antônio Martüc on Jan 26, 2006 17:10:20 GMT -6
That's why their country is a mess. Only reason why that country isn't completely poverish like many african nations is because they have oil!
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Post by Evan Campbell on Jan 26, 2006 17:14:11 GMT -6
African their in the Middle East or Lower Asia. And it is not hat they are in caos but it is because they have a terroist group in their country.
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Post by Ups Antônio Martüc on Jan 26, 2006 17:23:01 GMT -6
I never said Iran in africa, did I? Persians are VERY different from africans ha. A terroist group in their country? Their government IS a terroist group... well more like a mafia. The "terroist group" you might be thinking of might actually be freedom fighter's wanting a regime change. But who knows. I don't care too much about iran..it is what it is and it's not that different from saddam hussein's iraq.. Only differences are that the iranian government isn't stupid and wants to stay in power so they aren't as extreme and the other different is that theyre a persian majority.. nor arab. Only real differences.
Well there's also religious differences... Saddam Hussein is a selfist and didn't really care about religion, only when it suited him in public events and the iranians are extreme about their religion.. Also the sunni muslims believe in non-hereditary leadership..meaning they don't think just because you're of a certain bloodline that you should be in a position of power.. shite muslims believe in bloodline leadership. saddam is a sunni muslim..well says he is and the majorite of muslims are shite
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Post by Evan Campbell on Jan 26, 2006 17:33:29 GMT -6
Well that is most likely where AMerica is going to attack next
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Post by Ups Antônio Martüc on Jan 26, 2006 17:43:03 GMT -6
Ha. I don't think they will... The US would take ALOT of heat for that and iran has a better military than iraq. Iraq was smashed by superior fire power back in 1991. They had a good military for the region, but definately wasn't any match to america. So they kept their tanks rolling and were slaughtered from the air while the us made some strategic movies in kuwait that left iraq with no choice but to pull out. Ever since their military has been nothing like it used to be because of international sanctions and such. They had no chance to rebuild their military... they didnt even use their airforce! It wouldve been a suicide mission anyway..only chance they couldve had is laying low until the us supply convoys came from the rear and destroy them... but I still think they wouldve lost no matter what..
Iran would lose the war if that war did occur...but the us would take alot of hits politically for it
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Post by Evan Campbell on Jan 26, 2006 18:38:02 GMT -6
Well if you havve not noticed the us has two fronts on Iran and with the right amount of soliders it will be a cake walk.
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Post by Ups Antônio Martüc on Jan 27, 2006 4:24:30 GMT -6
If you haven't noticed, the age of taking over a nation without just cause is over. The UN is essentially around to create a world body and also to protect its smaller and weaker nations from conquest... Politics is why china doesnt walk into nepal.. that would be a really short war
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Post by Evan Campbell on Jan 27, 2006 16:59:26 GMT -6
Well that is because Nepal is mostly mountains that would be hard to move equipment around, then though they would have to deal with the US. But Iran is not the same thing because the UN has no power, they are just a big meeting of the countries to make sure everybody is okay of something a country is doing to an another. Politics is not why it is fear of a nuclear war because they have the largest Army in the world. China is also not that way. North Korea is saying that their "national waters is 200 miles around and air space is the same." But the world doesn't care because it is what the majority is. China how ever agrees to the 5 miles around the waters and air space. agian though terroist are in Iran and not Nepal.
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Post by Ups Antônio Martüc on Jan 27, 2006 17:50:20 GMT -6
China would crush nepal... no rugged terrain would stop that... The most the US would do is threaten to cut diplomatic ties and pressure them economically.. It would definately hurt china, but they could take nepal if they wanted.. It's just not in their agenda.. If taiwan declares independence..taiwan will have a problem
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Post by Evan Campbell on Jan 27, 2006 17:58:28 GMT -6
They have (Taiwan) it just died down for the momeant and the Us would probely get ccolation alog with Nato to stop them.
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Post by Ups Antônio Martüc on Jan 27, 2006 18:00:05 GMT -6
I think taiwan could put up a good fight by themselves.. But I think if china gets a foot hold on taiwanese soil..theyll setup supply lines and it'll be all over from there...long and bloody war
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Post by Evan Campbell on Jan 27, 2006 18:07:26 GMT -6
most likely.
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Post by Ups Antônio Martüc on Jan 27, 2006 18:11:21 GMT -6
china has too many troops.. in ww2 japan technically did defeat china because no country needs to take ALL over china in order to defeat china.. and japan had pretty much everything of any strategic value and they were going in for the kill but the us kept advancing on them so they had to keep sending in forces on the defensive to repel the us and eventually they went down like germany... but with a bigger bang lol. now they're like usa's best friend. But many japanese troops kept complaining that in china... there was just too many chinese troops
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