Ian Plätschisch
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Post by Ian Plätschisch on Jul 27, 2019 19:29:36 GMT -6
It appears to me that we already have plenty of cultural organizations. The problem is that no one is doing much with them; not that we need another one. We could always introduce ranks to these organizations to encourage activity if need be. Besides, awarding military ranks to non-military activities does not make much sense to me.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Jul 27, 2019 20:00:54 GMT -6
Which organization could do this, then? None come to mind. Maybe I'm forgetting one? I guess the CUG could start doing that, maybe, although it doesn't seem like their scene.
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Iac Marscheir
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Post by Iac Marscheir on Jul 27, 2019 20:10:26 GMT -6
Anybody who can prove the CÚG still exists is eligible for a Nobel prize.
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Ian Plätschisch
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Post by Ian Plätschisch on Jul 27, 2019 20:15:14 GMT -6
Which organization could do this, then? None come to mind. Maybe I'm forgetting one? I guess the CUG could start doing that, maybe, although it doesn't seem like their scene. The CUG (or equivalent) would be a great organization for rewarding language activity. There are a litany of other interest groups that could do the same for their field; we do not necessarily need them all under one organization. If we do, and the main point of that organization is giving honors, then it essentially sounds like we have arrived back at a civil honors system, re-purposing of the military not required.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Jul 27, 2019 20:22:58 GMT -6
Doesn't sound like the CUG is up to it, according to Iac. I don't know of any other organization that exists that could do it, either. Plus the whole thing about military ranks is that they are part of the national military, not just ceremonial. Seems to have a little more oomph in that silly sense that would make this work. I guess I could start handing out ranks for this right now, but who would care or think that's cool? No one. There'd be some meat on the bones if it was the national military, since it comes with inherent prestige inherited from its resemblance to well-respected macronational organizations.
Yes, this might be a civil honors system, I guess. Except that it's one that's more finely-grained (lots of room for positive reinforcement to occur, as opposed to infrequent awards), and it's actually interesting, and it turns something that's mostly dumb into something that could serve the national interest. I don't care what label we apply to my proposed system.
This is a great idea and y'all dumb if you won't do it. I'd sign up for the military right now if this was a thing. It would feel cool to get a promotion for translating some Wordsworth, and I'd learn more Talossan. Others would see me get a promotion for doing something easily within their reach with a half-hour's effort, and they'd do it too. It wouldn't be some abstract "it would be good to learn this" goal, and it means that such work wouldn't fall down the memory hole immediately. Not a damn person spends their time reading the previous stuff in our library in Talossan, either, and this might change that as folks looked at existing work to do their own.
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Ian Plätschisch
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Post by Ian Plätschisch on Jul 27, 2019 20:27:42 GMT -6
On second thought, converting only the Zouaves to a cultural institution might be smart (and sound from a derivatist perspective as well given that the British Queen's guard and the Swiss Guard are now both mostly ways to generate tourist dollars). We might then get a lot of people to join it, which would be nice since it would give people some attachment to the King.
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Ian Plätschisch
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Post by Ian Plätschisch on Jul 27, 2019 20:29:06 GMT -6
We could introduce the Seneschal's medal for "medium" contributions between a promotion and a knighthood/SH and call it a day.
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Iac Marscheir
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Post by Iac Marscheir on Jul 27, 2019 20:29:14 GMT -6
I wear a military-inspired jacket a lot and I have a relatively strong knowledge of Talossan, but I don't think I'll use it to earn military ranks. That said, I think we should give it a shot. My job is to increase use of the language, and if that works, it has my full support.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jul 27, 2019 20:30:22 GMT -6
I'm on record as wanting a replacement organisation for the CÚG set up. I will be guided by the Ladîntsch Naziunál in that regard.
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Iac Marscheir
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Post by Iac Marscheir on Jul 27, 2019 20:56:54 GMT -6
Well, we could dredge up the old idea of la SIGN and its three divisions for developing/revising and testing grammar and orthography.
Of course, then I'd have to abbreviate the Talossan Translation Service to la SàG.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Jul 27, 2019 21:02:33 GMT -6
Mick is the head of the Zuoaves -- kick him out and put in Iac or whoever's up for this. Captain is the highest rank, unfortunately, so that'll need to be changed. Gotta have a general in charge. A PD would do it, and the King would sign onto it, I bet. Then the general just figures out what the requirements for promotion might be. Being specific and easy at the low ranks would be best, while defining later ranks could probably wait until this got going.
Enlist as a private. PFC for a poem or short story, either translated or original, of any length. Corporal after that for two more translations or one original work of slightly higher word count (gotta keep people from rankgrubbing with Basho). Sergeant, etc.
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Ian Plätschisch
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Post by Ian Plätschisch on Jul 27, 2019 21:10:42 GMT -6
Mick is the head of the Zuoaves I fired him at the beginning of my tenure as PM as part of my "cleaning house"
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Ian Plätschisch
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Post by Ian Plätschisch on Jul 27, 2019 21:11:25 GMT -6
Enlist as a private. PFC for a poem or short story, either translated or original, of any length. Corporal after that for two more translations or one original work of slightly higher word count (gotta keep people from rankgrubbing with Basho). Sergeant, etc. No need to limit it to the language IMO
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Iac Marscheir
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Post by Iac Marscheir on Jul 27, 2019 21:12:54 GMT -6
It's actually sounding like you're the one who's up to this, Alex. Ain't no way I'll be able to translate el Lexhatx and lead an entire rank structure of ladintschen and studints. Being the sole member of la Serviçù à Glheþinaziun is, for now, a full-time commitment.
Maybe if things settle into more of a routine after el Lexhatx and the OrgLaw are translated, I'll be able focus on that, if you'll have me.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Jul 27, 2019 21:17:17 GMT -6
Buzz off, Iac, how could I judge works of Talossan? I'd be hard-pressed to qualify for PFC right now.
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