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Post by Gödafrïeu Válcadác’h on Jun 28, 2019 15:23:18 GMT -6
Maybe the public show is not so great, then. I'll grant you that.
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Glüc da Dhi
Secretary of State
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Talossan Since: 5-14-2009
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Jun 28, 2019 15:32:24 GMT -6
I really wish people who had great ideas for how this survey should operate had given me input when I asked for it weeks ago. Well as pointed out by others there weren't really any questions to comment on before it was sent out. Anyway, I sent out the census to the -allow the chancery only to sent political stuff- list, though I do feel the interpretation, especially of question 7 will be flawed. Maybe we should consider some clearer rules on this, because right now it seems like I can just send government stuff or not depending on whether I feel like it.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Jun 28, 2019 16:46:36 GMT -6
Miestra, it is notable how often you argue -- with great passion and verve and occasional cruelty -- against things you wish I had said. I suppose it's more cathartic than fixing real problems.
Me: "Hey, it seems like things have gotten really quiet and boring. That worries me, because I don't want Talossa to be quiet and boring." You: "Oh so you were only happy when your party had an unchallenged majority for years on end??!!! Your standard for success is being in power!??! I prefer democracy, s:reu!!!!!"
Me: "I think Ian was right to say that one of the questions on the survey was not well-phrased." You: "You think that the questions were so badly phrased that you want to murder me with twelve hammers and a stale loaf of bread?!!? Outrageous! You and your good-ol'-boys Murder Crew belong in the dustbin of history!"
Me: "Maybe not everything is a huge deal that deserves a shrieking fit?" You: "How dare you suggest that you will lead a fascist robotic revolution to destroy all humans?!?!?!?"
I mean, honestly... you received some extremely mild criticism about your survey from other people and still managed to loop me in and escalate until you declared that I was similar to a fan of Stalinism. Dial it back a little.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jun 28, 2019 16:49:26 GMT -6
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Jun 28, 2019 16:50:48 GMT -6
I think you're just confused, or maybe I phrased myself badly. I said only that we didn't see the questions before they went out and we didn't know about it before it happened -- ie that we didn't know when it was going out. I was not saying that the survey itself was a surprise. It obviously wasn't because I asked you urgently to do it
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Post by Audrada Rôibeardét on Jun 29, 2019 15:27:49 GMT -6
Wow. This is a bit...hostile.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jun 30, 2019 17:01:36 GMT -6
Anyway, you'll be pleased to know that 26 people have answered the survey so far, which is a pretty good sample of current citizens so far; though I hope for more.
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Seguxhameir d'Üc
Citizen of Talossa
Grand General Secretary of Maritiimi-Maxhestic
Posts: 59
Talossan Since: 16th of October, 2018
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Post by Seguxhameir d'Üc on Jul 1, 2019 13:42:37 GMT -6
As a neat little aside re the survey, I never received it. How was it sent?
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Glüc da Dhi
Secretary of State
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Talossan Since: 5-14-2009
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Jul 1, 2019 14:17:43 GMT -6
You never set a privacy setting on the database, so you are automatically counted in the don't send mail (other than elections/census) list, rather than the chancery only political stuff list. I can still send you the survey if you want it.
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Seguxhameir d'Üc
Citizen of Talossa
Grand General Secretary of Maritiimi-Maxhestic
Posts: 59
Talossan Since: 16th of October, 2018
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Post by Seguxhameir d'Üc on Jul 1, 2019 14:22:16 GMT -6
AH! My error. And, yes, do kindly send the survey. I shall remedy the other issue post haste. Thanks!
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Ian Plätschisch
Senator for Maritiimi-Maxhestic
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Talossan Since: 3-21-2015
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Post by Ian Plätschisch on Jul 1, 2019 16:52:27 GMT -6
This is a solid piece of anecdotal evidence for, at the very least, directing the Chancery to ask every new citizen whether they would like to opt in to receiving emails
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jul 1, 2019 17:23:29 GMT -6
This is a solid piece of anecdotal evidence for, at the very least, directing the Chancery to ask every new citizen whether they would like to opt in to receiving emails Well, I think we're talking about two different things here. The current system is set up only to send "election spam" emails. You'll note that the SoS didn't even know whether it was legal to send out the Survey. So I've posted a bill in the Hopper which would set up a new system where "official business, not spam" emails would go out to all Talossans. Have you got any comments on that?
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Glüc da Dhi
Secretary of State
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Talossan Since: 5-14-2009
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Jul 1, 2019 17:29:21 GMT -6
This is a solid piece of anecdotal evidence for, at the very least, directing the Chancery to ask every new citizen whether they would like to opt in to receiving emails I send every new citizen a message with among other things a link to the privacy setting. As far as non-anecdotal evidence goes, only 13 citizens do not have a privacy setting.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jul 18, 2019 0:41:48 GMT -6
38 responses so far, and many of them from people who say that they check Witt monthly or less. That was the audience I was hoping to get through to.
I think I'll let it run until after July 26 (I have a big meeting that day) and then probably announce some results.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jul 27, 2019 3:06:21 GMT -6
Please find attached my Report on the Talossan Activity Survey. Report on the Talossan Activity Survey July....pdf (650.95 KB) I would like you to read the whole thing and look at the raw data, but here are the conclusions that I have drawn from the report, to recommend to Cabinet and the Ziu: - Continue with our current plans to increase the use of the Talossan language; to create a (monthly at first) news blog; to centralise and revive Talossa’s official social media accounts; and to seek out and build links with other “Talossa-like entities”.
- Prioritise the promotion and/or organisation of Talossan games, competitions and quizzes.
- Increase the quality of information about Talossa available to, and accessible to, prospective and/or new citizens; and investigate the possibility of the revival of the Civics Test.
- Open a new national discussion on how to improve the tone of debate. The real problem is that almost everyone in Talossa blames someone else for rudeness/provocative behaviour/disrespect, and considers what they themselves do to be perfectly harmless. Can there be any “objective standard” for rude, toxic or nasty debate?
- Leave open the questions of “exit interviews for departing citizens” and “a week/month in review thread” until we can flesh out those ideas more.
Questions? Comments?
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